Agents of SHIELD: Season 3 - Discussion (SPOILERS LIKELY)

[Star Wolf]

It occurs to me that there should be some new Inhumans who know exactly what is happening to them. Most of the inhabitants of Afterlife knew all about their heritage but hadn't been exposed to terrigen yet, and likely never would would have under normal circumstances. Even Raina, who had never even been to Afterlife pre-transformation, knew what she was because of the stories her grandmother used to tell her. Likely lots of others who will recognize this for what it is.

The numbers are not large enough yet for the Raina's of the world who want their destiny to pierce SHIELD's and the ATCU's security to know about the cocoons and it was the fish oil and then to start eating a seafood heavy diet. Since the emergence of the Hulk there have been other weird things happening

 

[Guy Gardener]

Governments regulate information to keep power and control people.

"After a fashion"

What happens to the journalists trying to write about Inhumanism?

I suppose it depends which country you're in, as to how stressfully you're suppressed or gagged.

Point being is that no one probably knows that fishoil is bad, and anyone trying to blog about it, is wondering why their computer is suddenly on fire for no reason.

 

[JD]

The implication is he went through terragenesis so he started looking like Lash and had to hide until he learned how to control his powers and appear to be normal.

It could explain why Andrew is not clearing any of the new Inhumans for active duty so he doesn't have to kill them.

Lash also had a perfect opportunity to kill Daisy, but didn't.

That makes no sense, though. Lash has killed several Inhumans who weren't doing anything but living their lives. Why would Andrew decide he HAS to kill those random people, but make no attempt against any of the others he has direct knowledge of? And actively be trying to protect them/help them, when he could just as easily never go back to SHIELD at all?

Even if, and this is a big if, Andrew is Lash, that doesn't necessarily mean Lash is Andrew. Maybe Lash is a totally different identity that has no awareness of Andrew, and the other way around.

 

[Star Wolf]

It could explain why Andrew is not clearing any of the new Inhumans for active duty so he doesn't have to kill them.

Lash also had a perfect opportunity to kill Daisy, but didn't.

That makes no sense, though. Lash has killed several Inhumans who weren't doing anything but living their lives. Why would Andrew decide he HAS to kill those random people, but make no attempt against any of the others he has direct knowledge of? And actively be trying to protect them/help them, when he could just as easily never go back to SHIELD at all?

Even if, and this is a big if, Andrew is Lash, that doesn't necessarily mean Lash is Andrew. Maybe Lash is a totally different identity that has no awareness of Andrew, and the other way around.

Speculation, Andrew knows Daisy and Joey are willing to work for humanity while Lincoln and other survivors of Jaiying's group refused. He didn't know Alicia joined the team until after he wounded her. The social security guy couldn't guide him to the newly turned Inhumans but I don't remember how many newly turned the ATCU said they found dead.

 

[The Old Mixer]

So Phone Fitz is her Wilson...does she have to go back for Wilson?

Never mind...they went with the most painfully obvious thing they could have...she got a man there.

An astronaut traveled through a monolith in 2001...I see what they did there.

 

[Mr Light]

Holy shit, I want one of those phones. It lasted a MONTH?!

 

[Alidar Jarok]

Pretty interesting episode that seemingly raises more questions than answers.

 

[Christopher]

An astronaut traveled through a monolith in 2001...I see what they did there.

And then there are the names of the other astronauts on Will's expedition -- Austin (The Six Million Dollar Man), Brubaker (Capricorn One), and Taylor (Planet of the Apes).

 

[The Old Mixer]

I thought those names seemed significant...but the only one I made a connection with in the moment was Taylor.

Did we get Will's last name? Bowman?

 

[Commander Richard]

Holy shit, I want one of those phones. It lasted a MONTH?!

It's special SHIELD tech.

I thought those names seemed significant...but the only one I made a connection with in the moment was Taylor.

Christopher is clearly on NZT.

 

[Mr Light]

the astronaut names were Marvel writers. I've already forgotten which ones.

 

[Christopher]

I thought those names seemed significant...but the only one I made a connection with in the moment was Taylor.

Did we get Will's last name? Bowman?

Will Daniels, according to IMDb. Presumably he's going to be a recurring character, and so he wouldn't have been named purely as an in-joke.

I thought those names seemed significant...but the only one I made a connection with in the moment was Taylor.

Christopher is clearly on NZT.

I recognized Austin and Taylor, but I had to look up "Brubaker astronaut" to confirm my hypothesis. I haven't seen Capricorn One in a long, long time.

the astronaut names were Marvel writers. I've already forgotten which ones.

I initially assumed that the first two names referred to Terry Austin (or maybe Chuck Austen?) and Ed Brubaker, and that might be a secondary part of the in-joke. But "Taylor" was the one that didn't fit. I'm sure there must be some comics creator named Taylor, but this was a story about a group of four astronauts who were stranded in a desert and died off until only one was left, so there was already a Planet of the Apes resonance going on.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Fred is brave.

He knows the Hulk wants to eat him.

And still he gets a job at Marvel.

 

[Gryffindorian]

The first few hours that you're stranded on a remote planet like that, you don't know how long you're going to be there - days, weeks, months, or perhaps a lifetime. Survival mode kicks in. Must find water, food, shelter from the elements. Jemma was just lucky to survive. And I knew she and Will couldn't possibly live together and not have sex. That was the big elephant in the cave

 

[Guy Gardener]

No toothpaste.

They could most definitely live together without sex.

 

[kitik]

Great episode, for a good long time, I thought thew monster was Will. And now that I think about it, that was never really disproven at the end, was it? In fact now that I'm thinking about it while typing it out, Will could be a shape-changin' Skrull. Though I guess that wouldn't explain the sandstorms that kick up whenever the monster shows up.

Poor Fitz.

So, wouldn't Shield have some sort of knowledge of the monolith from NASA? That doesn't seem to add up. Did NASA really keep all their secrets from Shield? There's definitely reason to wonder if Will was telling the whole truth. Heck, perhaps the fact that apparently he gave the names of famous fictional astronauts was intended to be a clue that his whole story was made up.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Good thing Will and Jemma happened to be going out to watch a rare sunrise when Fitz shot the flare through.

Still, overall, that was an excellent episode.

Part of me giggled inside at the astronaut going through the Monolith in the year 2001.

An astronaut traveled through a monolith in 2001...I see what they did there.

 

[CorporalClegg]

I think that might have been the best episode of the series so far.

 

[Forbin]

I think that might have been the best episode of the series so far.

Completely agree. I was riveted. And it's entirely because of the actress - brilliant work.

 

[Christopher]

So, wouldn't Shield have some sort of knowledge of the monolith from NASA? That doesn't seem to add up. Did NASA really keep all their secrets from Shield?

Well, the monolith itself has been in SHIELD possession for years; it was in the hold of Gonzales's aircraft carrier at the time of the Hydra coup, which is why Gonzales, Bobbi, Mack, etc. fought so hard to take the carrier back from Hydra. I guess what you're saying is that Coulson's people didn't know it was a space portal device. Maybe the branch of SHIELD that operated the carrier had that intel, but it was need-to-know for everyone else, and the files were lost in the Hydra coup and the dissolution of SHIELD (though you'd think Black Widow would've made them public along with the rest of the SHIELD files at the end of The Winter Soldier).

There's definitely reason to wonder if Will was telling the whole truth. Heck, perhaps the fact that apparently he gave the names of famous fictional astronauts was intended to be a clue that his whole story was made up.

That would be meta. We're so used to writers sticking in geeky in-jokes that we wouldn't suspect it was intentional on the part of the characters.