Agents of SHIELD: Season 3 - Discussion (SPOILERS LIKELY)

[gblews]

The classic "Now-I'm-going-to-tell-you-everything.-Roll-credits." trick.

So there were two little possible fakeouts tonight. First, we're supposed to wonder if Lash is actually Rosalind's right hand man. Daisy and Mack talked about how he disappeared in a hurry right before Lash attacked, and we're certainly supposed to have our doubts about the ATCU in general. Second, yeah, we never saw Andrew's face. So is he really dead or not?

I'm strongly leaning towards that soldier guy not being Lash. But they just want to keep us guessing about him and the ATCU for a while still. And I was leaning towards Andrew actually being dead, and they just didn't want to show his dead face on tv. But man, why burn the evidence afterwards? Surely Shield can run dna and dental records. But yeah, the whole burning the crime scene trick screams that it's a fakeout.

That little Hunter vs May angle they set up there at the end was pretty surprising. There's nothing Hunter can do to make up for that perceived loss. There could be some pretty intense scenes between them over the next few weeks.

What if Lash is Andrew.

I don't see any way Andrew could be an Inhuman. That would make him a raving schizophrenic. The guy has his feet planted so firmly on the ground that if he found out he was an IH, he would have gone to Coulson immediately (or May) and told them. If he didn't tell Coulson, I can see him going into hiding. In any case he'd would not be hanging around SHIELD.

No, I still think the best candidate for Lash is Rosalind's guy. The only question about Andrew now is whether or not he is dead.

If Drew is dead, May is going want Ward's ass even more than Hunter wants him.

 

[kirk55555]

I hope Simmons reasons for wanting to go back are good, and actually get revealed next episode, to the audience at least if not the whole SHIELD crew.

We're going to hear a story from Simmons next week. Time will tell whether it's the whole truth or just part of the truth.

We're getting more than a story from Simmons, judging from the preview and from the episode title, "4,722 Hours." I daresay we'll be getting pretty extensive flashbacks showing Simmons's experiences in detail.

Well, that's good. Her experiences are probably the most interesting part of the show right now (not that the others are bad), and I'm very interested to learn more about what happened to her.

 

[Star Wolf]

Ward's reaction to realizing Agent May was there backing up Hunter reminded me of the Red Skull upon seeing Captain America attacking his base in The First Avenger declaring we are out manned and retreating.

 

[sojourner]

"Space heroin. I'm going back for space heroin."

"good Nyborg, man!"

 

[Non Sync]

The classic "Now-I'm-going-to-tell-you-everything.-Roll-credits." trick.

So there were two little possible fakeouts tonight. First, we're supposed to wonder if Lash is actually Rosalind's right hand man. Daisy and Mack talked about how he disappeared in a hurry right before Lash attacked, and we're certainly supposed to have our doubts about the ATCU in general. Second, yeah, we never saw Andrew's face. So is he really dead or not?

I'm strongly leaning towards that soldier guy not being Lash. But they just want to keep us guessing about him and the ATCU for a while still. And I was leaning towards Andrew actually being dead, and they just didn't want to show his dead face on tv. But man, why burn the evidence afterwards? Surely Shield can run dna and dental records. But yeah, the whole burning the crime scene trick screams that it's a fakeout.

That little Hunter vs May angle they set up there at the end was pretty surprising. There's nothing Hunter can do to make up for that perceived loss. There could be some pretty intense scenes between them over the next few weeks.

What if Lash is Andrew.

I don't see any way Andrew could be an Inhuman. That would make him a raving schizophrenic. The guy has his feet planted so firmly on the ground that if he found out he was an IH, he would have gone to Coulson immediately (or May) and told them. If he didn't tell Coulson, I can see him going into hiding. In any case he'd would not be hanging around SHIELD.

No, I still think the best candidate for Lash is Rosalind's guy. The only question about Andrew now is whether or not he is dead.

If Drew is dead, May is going want Ward's ass even more than Hunter wants him.

Andrew being Lash would explain him disappearing from May. If he turned into Lash, it would also explain Von Strucker's fear. How could one of Rosalind's guys get into the middle of things so quickly and why would they have been watching Andrew?

 

[RJDiogenes]

^^ Indeed. They went out of their way to not show who the body was, von Strucker was the only one shown leaving the store and he was in a panic, and they exposited that Andrew had uncharacteristically left May when they were on their sabbatical. I think Andrew being Lash is a strong possibility.

"Space heroin. I'm going back for space heroin."

A space heroine on space heroin. Such a tragedy.

 

[Timelord79 (he/him)]

I think it's a half truth.
He may indeed be an inhuman, but not Lash, still giving him a reason to walk out on May but not turning out to be a bad guy and able to handle and scare Hydra when they tried to assassinate him.

 

[Marsden]

Didn't Andy have a girlfriend since May? That's a good reason for not wanting to stay with her.


I'm voting for Lash not being an established character.


Maybe Simmons ran into Bear Grylls and she wants to go back to him.

 

[gblews]

What if Lash is Andrew.

I don't see any way Andrew could be an Inhuman. That would make him a raving schizophrenic. The guy has his feet planted so firmly on the ground that if he found out he was an IH, he would have gone to Coulson immediately (or May) and told them. If he didn't tell Coulson, I can see him going into hiding. In any case he'd would not be hanging around SHIELD.

No, I still think the best candidate for Lash is Rosalind's guy. The only question about Andrew now is whether or not he is dead.

If Drew is dead, May is going want Ward's ass even more than Hunter wants him.

Andrew being Lash would explain him disappearing from May. If he turned into Lash, it would also explain Von Strucker's fear. How could one of Rosalind's guys get into the middle of things so quickly and why would they have been watching Andrew?

Why would his being Lash force Andrew to leave his little getaway with May early? It might be argued that perhaps Drew can't control when he changes to Lash and can't control himself after turning into Lash. But if this were the case then why go on vacation with May in the first place knowing he might change unexpectedly.

Andrew being Lash, I think, would require them to write Drew way out of character.

I assumed they were watching Drew because Ward wanted revenge on May for forcing him to kill 33. As it was, Ward ended up attempting to use Andrew to get May and Hunter to stand down.

Having Drew be Lash would be so hoaky. If Andrew turns out to be Lash, I'll eat my keyboard.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

The ATCU seemed to be setting up the truck for an attack by Lash.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

Why would his being Lash force Andrew to leave his little getaway with May early?

The implication is he went through terragenesis so he started looking like Lash and had to hide until he learned how to control his powers and appear to be normal.

 

[cylkoth]

Andrew would need his own private quin jet in order to get around to all these different locations and make it back in time not to be suspected.

 

[Mr Light]

I'm really enjoying this season, but good god I do not give a **** about Ward taking over Hydra. I can't believe they're still keeping this character around. He is so un-charismatic and uninteresting. They should have offed him at the end of last season and given it a nice ending. It's just beating the same dead horse over and over.

 

[The Old Mixer]

Hear, hear. Ward makes HYDRA boring.

HAIL HYDRA!

Wake up one viewer, and two more shall fall asleep in their place!

HAIL HYDRA!

 

[DEWLine]

Simmons is looking into the James Webb Space Telescope?

 

[Non Sync]

Why would his being Lash force Andrew to leave his little getaway with May early?

The implication is he went through terragenesis so he started looking like Lash and had to hide until he learned how to control his powers and appear to be normal.

It could explain why Andrew is not clearing any of the new Inhumans for active duty so he doesn't have to kill them.

Lash also had a perfect opportunity to kill Daisy, but didn't.

 

[Grendelsbayne]

Why would his being Lash force Andrew to leave his little getaway with May early?

The implication is he went through terragenesis so he started looking like Lash and had to hide until he learned how to control his powers and appear to be normal.

It could explain why Andrew is not clearing any of the new Inhumans for active duty so he doesn't have to kill them.

Lash also had a perfect opportunity to kill Daisy, but didn't.

That makes no sense, though. Lash has killed several Inhumans who weren't doing anything but living their lives. Why would Andrew decide he HAS to kill those random people, but make no attempt against any of the others he has direct knowledge of? And actively be trying to protect them/help them, when he could just as easily never go back to SHIELD at all?

 

[Guy Gardener]

Consider maybe that Terrigenisis is Holy.

That means maybe that there is holy orthodox terrigenisis and unholy inorthodox terrigenisis.

Racism/Specism?

Remember the hubbub when "testtube babies" was a word?

I can imagine that "Inhuman" might have been used by the sort of people who would protest "unnatural" procreation.

Elitism basically.

More elite than the bunch from Afterlife, since they're on the hitlist side by side with the fishoil Inhumans.

Only Inhumans who Terrigenate with Diviners are real Inhumans?

(Nah, I liked the idea in my head, but it doesn't hold water on paper. No, my computer is not made out of paper.)

 

[Star Wolf]

Consider maybe that Terrigenisis is Holy.

That means maybe that there is holy orthodox terrigenisis and unholy inorthodox terrigenisis.

Racism/Specism?

Remember the hubbub when "testtube babies" was a word?

I can imagine that "Inhuman" might have been used by the sort of people who would protest "unnatural" procreation.

Elitism basically.

More elite than the bunch from Afterlife, since they're on the hitlist side by side with the fishoil Inhumans.

Only Inhumans who Terrigenate with Diviners are real Inhumans?

(Nah, I liked the idea in my head, but it doesn't hold water on paper. No, my computer is not made out of paper.)

I'm with you as faith doesn't hold water on paper but is a driving force for us. Considering what the Marvel comics fan knows about the Inhumans that the MCU watcher does not while the comics fan grit their teeth about Jaiying's group being the face Inhumans and not some sort of royalty with the divine rights that implies.

But it also means that a cold war existed among Inhumans and when SHIELD took down Afterlife the balance of power shifted and now there is open warfare, or at least one terrorist wants it so

 

[Turtletrekker]

It occurs to me that there should be some new Inhumans who know exactly what is happening to them. Most of the inhabitants of Afterlife knew all about their heritage but hadn't been exposed to terrigen yet, and likely never would would have under normal circumstances. Even Raina, who had never even been to Afterlife pre-transformation, knew what she was because of the stories her grandmother used to tell her. Likely lots of others who will recognize this for what it is.