Deanna Troi's Outfits
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That blue dress thing... kinda ugly.
I think her best look was in the grey what-do-you-call-it with purple "collar".
I think her best look was in the grey what-do-you-call-it with purple "collar".
Troi looked far better in standard uniform, though of all her civvies the dress is by far my favourite.
Yes i agree with you about her miniskirt uniform in EAF. Absolutely with you on her hair that first season. What on earth was all that about?!
I second (third?) the skirt uniform. I thought it was a nice balance in something more professional than the various cleavage-heavy outfits, but still something attractive.
(And yes, that hair was a frizzy mess, though).
I never noticed that all the times I saw TNG growing up, until I read it in a Memory Alpha article!
I know, but some Humans have black eyes as well (went to school with one).
It's funny; miniskirts were worn by both sexes in EAF, but disappeared completely after that. Apparently someone felt miniskirts were sexist toward women, but conversely just looked silly on men.
But I agree completely that she looked the best in that outfit. The problem was that Troi was supposed to be an officer and yet was allowed to wear what was essentially civilian clothing on duty, even on the bridge (where she had absolutely no business being, but that's another story.)
As a psychologist, Troi not being in a uniform may have made her seem "more approachable" to junior officers, civilians, and visitors on the ship who might have been intimidated or reluctant discussing their feelings with a by-the-book senior officer. In that regard, then the ship's counselor probably should have been a civilian job (and possibly could be on some other ships).
I've always believed that too. I think the only reason why Troi was on the bridge was because Picard wanted her there. On other Galaxy-class ships, the ship's counselor probably isn't a bridge position.Espaço-chica said:
re: Deanna on the bridge.
In some ways, I wonder if it was a mistake to make her an officer to begin with, and not part of the civilian staff. A lot of questions regarding her position etc would have resolved by making the Counsellor someone who is part of the crew (and a vital part), but not officer material. Sometimes I think that's where they were heading with the casual outfit leotards, but the uniform and rank were right there from the pilot.
On the other hand, I honestly don't know if the character would've survived the first season if she hadn't been a) an officer; and b) had a prominant position on the bridge alongside the Captain and First Officer.
In some ways, I wonder if it was a mistake to make her an officer to begin with, and not part of the civilian staff. A lot of questions regarding her position etc would have resolved by making the Counsellor someone who is part of the crew (and a vital part), but not officer material. Sometimes I think that's where they were heading with the casual outfit leotards, but the uniform and rank were right there from the pilot.
On the other hand, I honestly don't know if the character would've survived the first season if she hadn't been a) an officer; and b) had a prominant position on the bridge alongside the Captain and First Officer.
The irony is that Guinan wound up being as much of a counselor as Troi. In a lot of episodes that featured her, Troi wound up being redundant as the one who helped some crewmembers through their problems.
I still believe that her primary duty is as counsellor to the Captain, and that she is not merely the ship's therapist. Guinan may have been a great character and excellent confidant to many people, but she does not have the official position to advise the Captain on command decisions. This is why Captain Picard always kept her by his side. She is as vital to him as any other of his senior officers.
From an "out-of-universe" perspective she also had to be there as well, since once Tasha died there would not have been another regular woman bridge presence from a major character.
From an "out-of-universe" perspective she also had to be there as well, since once Tasha died there would not have been another regular woman bridge presence from a major character.
^ Good point. It's suggested in various episodes, like ''The Big Goodbye'', ''We'll Always Have Paris'', and even in the movie ''Generations'', that Deanna seems to have a very specific role on the ship in regards to the Captain. In the wedding reception scene in ''Nemesis'' Picard makes a big song and dance about having to get used to having a new counsellor, further suggesting that Deanna's role is, in many ways, tied up directly with the captain's.
I've long had the theory that the advent of ship's counsellors, and their having a place on the bridge, might stem from all those times in Kirk's era when starship skippers went psycho and ended up killing their crew (or worse). Someone in the brass may have realised after the likes of Matt Decker and Ron Tracey that the commander of a starship needs a very personal kind of monitoring, to make certain that his or her health and well-being are accounted for at all times...
I've long had the theory that the advent of ship's counsellors, and their having a place on the bridge, might stem from all those times in Kirk's era when starship skippers went psycho and ended up killing their crew (or worse). Someone in the brass may have realised after the likes of Matt Decker and Ron Tracey that the commander of a starship needs a very personal kind of monitoring, to make certain that his or her health and well-being are accounted for at all times...
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