You must be joking, northstar. You mean compared to a studio run professional production? What bar are you using? If it was so easy, all the other TOS fan productions should be able to look as good, deliver consistently, and on time.
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You must be joking, northstar. You mean compared to a studio run professional production? What bar are you using? If it was so easy, all the other TOS fan productions should be able to look as good, deliver consistently, and on time.
Why would I be joking? I was referring to Bixbys comment and was agreeing with him.
I consider STC a rather professional production compared to most other fan productions, so I would place the bar certainly higher on them.
A professional production produces a weekly 45 minute show in a few weeks (with overlapping episodes). Since STCs episodes so far have not been very VFX heavy or otherwise complicated, I think a 6 month postproduction time is not a problem - and they have proven that.
Now if their scripts are getting more demanding in terms of sets, vfx or other postproduction issues, I am pretty sure they will require a much longer time.
I consider STC a rather professional production compared to most other fan productions, so I would place the bar certainly higher on them.
A professional production produces a weekly 45 minute show in a few weeks (with overlapping episodes). Since STCs episodes so far have not been very VFX heavy or otherwise complicated, I think a 6 month postproduction time is not a problem - and they have proven that.
Now if their scripts are getting more demanding in terms of sets, vfx or other postproduction issues, I am pretty sure they will require a much longer time.
While I can't argue with STC's production quality, and quite frankly wouldn't want to, there's a viable argument to be made that their episodes aren't that complex.
At the same time, I think it's fair to say that STC has more financial resources than any group except perhaps Axanar and Renegade. One look at Kickstarter shows they've raised more money than NV/PII, Farragut, or Valiant, and they've done a great job of raising mindshare, too.
But, if you really look at the episodes they aren't that complex from a VFX point of view. They haven't done any really complicated space battle shots, and episode 5 was their first trip off the sound stage. There's certainly nothing to compare to TTI, Prelude to Axanar, or even Kitumba in the way of visual effects. Mostly they seem to rely on solid costuming, and an excellent set rather than complicated effects.
In a lot of ways STC really doesn't come across to me as that ambitious. They are very good at recreating the 60's TV appearance, but they aren't pushing the envelope in other areas. I want to see them go further and really show off what they can do.
And yet they've basically shown that even though that's what they say they want to do, they also have no problem not doing so.
Exeter had that same intent, and The Tressaurian Intersection is much more ambitious than anything STC has yet done.
And I think it's the bar all the major productions should be striving to reach. If STC wants to be seen as the best the fan film world has to offer then they need to meet that standard on a consistent basis.
According to their FB page Vic Mignogna will be on the radio (6:10 am PDT on the Greg Berg Show on WGTD 91.1 FM) tomorrow and will be announcing some updates during the interview.
You can also listen online: http://www.wgtd.org/Morning_Show.asp
You can also listen online: http://www.wgtd.org/Morning_Show.asp
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Which, if anything, only adds to the authenticity factor. Picturing this as though it really was the fourth season (1969-1970), it would be in the same suffocating financial straitjacket that Season 3 was in. Those 'uncomplicated' effects were literally the best TV production was capable of in late '69. Even McKenna works in that context (despite her TNG 'origins'), as a last-ditch attempt by Gene to get male viewers back in front of the TV.
So for viewers of that era, STC (so far) would be the show just starting to climb out of last season's ditch.
I dunno. I think TTI was perhaps over-ambitious in a some regards, which contributed to the very prolonged delays in finishing it. "The Atlantis Invaders" was even bigger. I think STC is smart to right-size their production to something they can pump out at the schedule they feel comfortable doing.
Yeah, the scripts could be better. But that's where they—and every single Trek fanfilm I've ever seen—need work.
DDM has many VFX shots, but a number of the Enterprise shots are stock, and of the other spaceship many are repeated or different segments of the same shot, an there are a few transporter shots too. But it's still a boatload of shots!
TTI has something like 37 purely VFX shots (spaceships, weirdspace, viewscreen) plus a transporter beamout, a phaser shot, sparks and forcefield effects, and that's just in Act 4.
TTI has something like 37 purely VFX shots (spaceships, weirdspace, viewscreen) plus a transporter beamout, a phaser shot, sparks and forcefield effects, and that's just in Act 4.
This interview didn't really tell us much we hadn't already heard, but there was a tidbit at the end dropped by Greg Berg that I found interesting, assuming it's true.
According to Berg, Vic told him that STC's target for STC was to make 13 episodes to complete the 5-year mission with the final episode bridging the time to the era of TMP.
If true this means those thirteen episodes are meant to comprise the last year or two of the 5-year voyage. I would think it's also a realistic target. Thirteen episodes strikes me as a lot more reachable than 22 to 50+ episodes to equal actual television seasons.
The question could then be what follows after that, if anything? STC in the TMP era anyone?
I hope to never see that one piece ever again. Best to stick with the two-piece design.
Much as I would love to see it, trying to pull off the TMP era in live-action is beyond both STC and NV. Trying to recreate the refit Bridge alone would be a financial back-breaker, never mind the other sets.
A good compromise that's quite feasible today is a new Filmation/Archer-style Animated Series set in the TMP era, using Donny Veriga's CGI Enterprise sets and suitably upgraded character designs ported over from TAS.
(From GMSKarka)
Plug the STC cast's voices into that, team up Richter, Bailey, Drexler and Probert for the space scenes, and Bob's your uncle.
A good compromise that's quite feasible today is a new Filmation/Archer-style Animated Series set in the TMP era, using Donny Veriga's CGI Enterprise sets and suitably upgraded character designs ported over from TAS.
(From GMSKarka)
Plug the STC cast's voices into that, team up Richter, Bailey, Drexler and Probert for the space scenes, and Bob's your uncle.
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