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Fifth Movie

I cried at the unnecessary death of my 2nd favorite character in the series finale, so yeah.

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Meh. Not so much. Not that the core casts of DS9 and VOY were necessarily DeNiro-esque masterclasses or anything, but I'll take Avery Brooks or Kate Mulgrew as convincing commanders over Bakula any day of the week, and Tim Russ' Vulcan runs rings around Blalock. DS9 in particular had no shortage of interesting characters or solid actors, especially with Auberjenois and Shimerman in the mix.

Bakula was wrong for the role (Brooks was more suited), but I really liked Blalock (Russ was about as interesting as paint drying).


Bakula was perfect as Archer. You must be from the Taylor Lautner school of acting.
 
I didn't think Tim Russ was all that bad. The real problem was that he was trying to act as if he was much older (since they originally wanted Robert Guillaume for the role) in order to act as Janeway's elder mentor. He never really pulled that off, IMHO, especially since he looked younger than Janeway.

Bakula was perfect as Archer. You must be from the Taylor Lautner school of acting.

He was boring, dull, lifeless, and completely unbelievable as a Starfleet captain (which is ironic because he was fantastic in Quantum Leap.) Connor Trinneer should have been Archer instead.
 
Bakula's gift is for aw-shucks everyman roles. Quantum Leap was built around that energy; ENT wasn't, and we were increasingly asked to buy Archer as a Great Man because Take Our Word For It, which was ultimately what sunk that series even with most loyalist Trekkies.
 
Backula tried to move beyond his Quantum Leap persona for Enterprise, but never figured out how to play Archer as anything other than stiff and unnatural. Sticking with "aw-shucks everyman" would probably have been better. Instead we got Captain Hayden Christensen.

Just imagine a speech about watching a gazelle hate sand.
 
I liked him as Mirror Archer. It didn't require having to act dignified, but the Shat of TOS Season 3 would have been proud.

Great men are not peacemakers; great men are conquerors!

Otherwise he's ...okay. A bit charisma-less and not really memorable. It's a pity, because I usually like Bakula.
 
The Mirror Ep of ENT was actually my favourite episode of that whole series. They were evil but by damn, they were characters in that one. :D
 
To the original intent of this post though -- I would have watched a 5th TNG movie, but I doubt it would have been a box-office hit for many of the reasons already mentioned.


I disagree. I think that if done well, a 5th TNG movie would have been a box office hit.

But I am forced to grudgingly agree that no matter how well it did, a 5th TNG movie would not have done as well monetarily as Star trek 2009. That is not to say it wouldn't have been as good a movie, if not better. Just not as monetarily successful.

And BTW, I personally don't care how much money a movie makes, beyond the idea of it may or may not get a sequel. I don't know anyone who looks up a movie to see how much money it made on opening weekend and decides whether or not to see it based on that information, either. Money made =/= good movie.

As a fan of TNG, I would have MUCH PREFERRED a 5th TNG film to be made before the reboot, however. With as much other crap movies Paramount produced between 2002 and 2009, I think they could have afforded to make one last TNG film, regardless of Nemesis. It certainly wouldn't have hurt the Star Trek franchise any worse, especially if done well.
 
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All the hate for Captain Archer. (well, or general dislike...)
I never got that. I kinda liked his awkwardness because it fits the Federation's underdog role at the time.

And how can anybody not like Hoshi?! She was competent and fun, and she was the only crew member to actually have a good time on Risa. :D That episode amused me way more than it probably should have. It's right up there with Captain's Holiday on my list of guilty pleasures.
 
Hey, I appreciate Hoshi. Without her, we wouldn't have Empress Hoshi.:adore: She just wasn't always used well. Kinda like Uhura and Rand in TOS, come to think of it.

I don't know if they would made a TNG movie without Spiner, and I think it was also reported that Stewart was getting a bit over it. There's also the fact that even before the movie tanked, it was being advertised as 'a Generation's final mission.'

I'm not saying truckloads of cash wouldn't have changed minds, but it does look like the gross wasn't the only reason another TNG movie didn't go forward. It wasn't like say, TWOK where they had people really passionate to do another one. Part of the reason the movies were getting so borked was because the producers had to keep bribing their leads to come back!
 
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