Live Action Marvel - Which Comic Characters Have Died ?

[Hartzilla2007]

Characters marked with an "*" have wiggle room to return.

Red Skull*

Yeah, I don't think he's coming back since Guardians of the Galaxy seems to spell out that people who touch infinity stones without some kind of contraption to channel their power get fried and considering the tesseract burn through the floor I don't think it counts.

 

[Tosk]

Daredevil
Ben Urich
Jack Murdock

And Wesley.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

Characters marked with an "*" have wiggle room to return.

Red Skull*

Yeah, I don't think he's coming back since Guardians of the Galaxy seems to spell out that people who touch infinity stones without some kind of contraption to channel their power get fried and considering the tesseract burn through the floor I don't think it counts.

Well, Guardians established that for the Power Stone. I don't think it's a universal rule. The reason people hold this theory about the Red Skull is the Tesseract is the Space Stone, which has the ability to teleport people from one place to another (and the original plan for the first Avengers movie was to bring him back).

Speaking of. The character is pretty much in name only, but the assistant/slave of the Collector is Carina, who is a comics character.

 

[Hartzilla2007]

Characters marked with an "*" have wiggle room to return.

Red Skull*

Yeah, I don't think he's coming back since Guardians of the Galaxy seems to spell out that people who touch infinity stones without some kind of contraption to channel their power get fried and considering the tesseract burn through the floor I don't think it counts.

Well, Guardians established that for the Power Stone. I don't think it's a universal rule.

I don't think they would put all of them in containment like devices if they all couldn't do that, why else would someone need an Infinity Gauntlet.

Besides even if he was just teleported there is no guarantee it was some place with a breathable atmosphere or even to a planet. And even if it did it would be who knows where in the universe so he's not likely to make it back.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

Did you read my second sentence? If he had come back for Avengers, would you still make the same argument?

 

[Hartzilla2007]

Did you read my second sentence? If he had come back for Avengers, would you still make the same argument?

No, but that was before the Power Stone was shown to fry people when touched without being in some kind of thing.

Plus since he didn't show up he means he was vaporized or possibly sent somewhere else away from Thanos aka stranded.

 

[DWF]

Did you read my second sentence? If he had come back for Avengers, would you still make the same argument?

No, but that was before the Power Stone was shown to fry people when touched without being in some kind of thing.

Plus since he didn't show up he means he was vaporized or possibly sent somewhere else away from Thanos aka stranded.

Nick Fury was able to handle the Tesseract in The Avengers without being teleported or killed.

 

[JD]

Daredevil
Ben Urich
Jack Murdock

Wow, so of all the characters who died in the first season, the two of them, and Wesley, were the only ones from the comics? That kind of surprises me.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

^ The prison guard who hanged himself was a reference to a comics character (Masked Marauder, iirc). But most of the characters in the Kingpin's organization were original characters.

Did you read my second sentence? If he had come back for Avengers, would you still make the same argument?

No, but that was before the Power Stone was shown to fry people when touched without being in some kind of thing.

Plus since he didn't show up he means he was vaporized or possibly sent somewhere else away from Thanos aka stranded.

Nick Fury was able to handle the Tesseract in The Avengers without being teleported or killed.

And the Aether was absorbed by Natalie Portman without any issues.

 

[Tosk]

Daredevil
Ben Urich
Jack Murdock

Wow, so of all the characters who died in the first season, the two of them, and Wesley, were the only ones from the comics? That kind of surprises me.

Oh, and Owlsley.

 

[Christopher]

Oh, and Owlsley.

Maybe. It's been suggested that his son Leland Jr. is the one who will become the Owl.

 

[Tosk]

For the thread at hand, I don't think it matters. Leland Owlsley is a comic character who died on the show. Just because he doesn't become the Owl in the MCU, doesn't make him not Leland Owlsley.

Just like we're counting Ivan Vanko's Whiplash, even though he stole Anton Vanko's place.

Which reminds me, we should add Anton Vanko to the list.

 

[Relayer1]

I'm slightly bothered about some of these deaths.

To use my two from the start if the thread - Ben Urich could certainly have had a part to play in the wider Marvel universe - he was a fleshed out character with a purpose BUT, his death was used well - it had impact and furthered the plot.

Victoria Hand, conversely, was just thrown away. It could have been pretty much any senior SHIELD agent killed - using that name gave no extra gravitas. The comic character was just wasted.

 

[Christopher]

For the thread at hand, I don't think it matters. Leland Owlsley is a comic character who died on the show. Just because he doesn't become the Owl in the MCU, doesn't make him not Leland Owlsley.

But his son is named Lee, and the fan theory is that his son is Leland Owlsley Jr. -- that maybe his son is the Leland Owlsley who becomes the Owl, and that this Leland, who was a mob accountant rather than a crime lord himself, was an original character created to be the father of the comics character. As ComicsAlliance puts it:

The comics Owl doesn't have a son, so why does the show invent one? The answer is obvious; the son must be Leland Owlsley Jr. and he is The Owl. He has a father's death to avenge, and a legitimate gripe with both Kingpin and Daredevil, plus quite a bit of cash squirreled away.

 

[Tosk]

Yeah I get it, I just disagree.

 

[Christopher]

I'm just putting the theory out there. It's not a matter of individual opinion, since whether it happens or not depends on the plans of the show's producers. It could be that "Lee" is the actual Owl, or it could not. We won't know one way or the other until the rest of the series develops.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

I'm slightly bothered about some of these deaths.

To use my two from the start if the thread - Ben Urich could certainly have had a part to play in the wider Marvel universe - he was a fleshed out character with a purpose BUT, his death was used well - it had impact and furthered the plot.

Victoria Hand, conversely, was just thrown away. It could have been pretty much any senior SHIELD agent killed - using that name gave no extra gravitas. The comic character was just wasted.

One thing with Victoria Hand: Given her comic book actions, it was very plausible she was the Hydra agent. So that fakeout worked well for me.

 

[Grendelsbayne]

Did you read my second sentence? If he had come back for Avengers, would you still make the same argument?

No, but that was before the Power Stone was shown to fry people when touched without being in some kind of thing.

Plus since he didn't show up he means he was vaporized or possibly sent somewhere else away from Thanos aka stranded.

Did you read my second sentence? If he had come back for Avengers, would you still make the same argument?

No, but that was before the Power Stone was shown to fry people when touched without being in some kind of thing.

Plus since he didn't show up he means he was vaporized or possibly sent somewhere else away from Thanos aka stranded.

Nick Fury was able to handle the Tesseract in The Avengers without being teleported or killed.

And the Aether was absorbed by Natalie Portman without any issues.

The Tesseract =/= the stone. The Tesseract is like the Orb or Loki's staff - a container which anyone can touch and, potentially, activate intentionally or unintentionally. Once the stone is removed from the tesseract (which we haven't seen yet), then it will probably be impossible for any mere mortal to touch it. The Aether would seem to be a unique situation in that it is a 'container' that seems to be in the form of pure energy rather than matter. Of course we still have no idea what the last two stones will be contained in.

 

[hyzmarca]

Jan VanDyne.

Janet might still be alive. She shrunk down smaller than sub-atomic and kept on shrinking, and no one could bring her back. But that doesn't necessarily mean she's dead. She could be trapped in the Microverse.

 

[Christopher]

Janet might still be alive. She shrunk down smaller than sub-atomic and kept on shrinking, and no one could bring her back. But that doesn't necessarily mean she's dead. She could be trapped in the Microverse.

"And in that moment, I knew the answer to the riddle of the infinite. I had thought in terms of man's own limited dimension. I had presumed upon nature. That existence begins and ends in man's conception, not nature's. And I felt my body dwindling, melting, becoming nothing. My fears melted away. And in their place came acceptance. All this vast majesty of creation, it had to mean something. And then I meant something, too. Yes, smaller than the smallest, I meant something, too. To God, there is no zero. I still exist!"