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Falling Skies - Season 5: Discussion and Spoilers

Can someone tell me what Anne and Tom were looking at when they followed the human eyed bug? My DVR cut off just as they were walking to the top of the hill.

I was wearing my glasses which I don't see out of very well, but I think it was a huge group of Skitters.

Massive group of Skitters and the flying mutants


So if those little ones came in different colors, would they be called Skittles?
 
What was interesting to me was the way the new aliens are communicating with Tom. They appear as his wife, choose a specific memory that is an analogy to their message, and use history-based symbolism to give him information. Why not just communicate directly, like the Volm and the Esphani do? Are they saying that their minds are too alien for that kind of direct communication?
Well...y'know...Shaka, when the walls fell... ;)

Yeah, I'm very interested to see what this new alien race is about. I distinctly remember a reference to "enemy of my enemy" in Tom's initial experience with them in E1.
 
What was interesting to me was the way the new aliens are communicating with Tom. They appear as his wife, choose a specific memory that is an analogy to their message, and use history-based symbolism to give him information. Why not just communicate directly, like the Volm and the Esphani do? Are they saying that their minds are too alien for that kind of direct communication?
There's a reason the Espheni are absolutely terrified of this species, and why they go around enslaving races and using them to create planet-sized super weapons to take them out. In fact, it seems to be the sole motivation for all of their evil acts; they're not conquerors for the sake of conquering. All they were using Earth for was to create these weapons to fight this new species.

The ease in which they've gotten Tom to work for them without him so much as really questioning it is a big clue to just how terrifying they really are. Not to mention how they're turning him into a psychopath, which is completely contrary to his true nature.
 
^^ Good point. I had actually forgotten about that aspect of it.

What was interesting to me was the way the new aliens are communicating with Tom. They appear as his wife, choose a specific memory that is an analogy to their message, and use history-based symbolism to give him information. Why not just communicate directly, like the Volm and the Esphani do? Are they saying that their minds are too alien for that kind of direct communication?
Well...y'know...Shaka, when the walls fell... ;)
Yes, exactly, only in a more holodeck kind of way.
 
The deaths on last night's episode actually made me laugh instead of feel sad. Maybe it was the awful setting up of said deaths or the dialog they had to spew.
 
^^^ Agreed. They trotted out the good old cliché of the secondary character finally finding some kind of happiness, allowing himself to drop his walls, talking about kids and a future after the war, only to have his hopes dashed away by the tragic death of his significant other by the end of the episode, and the inevitable rage and bitterness he will exhibit towards everyone else in the coming episode.

I really like Pope too much for his character to be reduced to tired old tropes like this. The story-telling this season has been much better than that, on the whole. Was there a writers' strike earlier in the year that I missed?
 
^^^ Agreed. They trotted out the good old cliché of the secondary character finally finding some kind of happiness, allowing himself to drop his walls, talking about kids and a future after the war, only to have his hopes dashed away by the tragic death of his significant other by the end of the episode, and the inevitable rage and bitterness he will exhibit towards everyone else in the coming episode.

I really like Pope too much for his character to be reduced to tired old tropes like this. The story-telling this season has been much better than that, on the whole. Was there a writers' strike earlier in the year that I missed?


Since he doesn't get to be happy, he'll do something to endanger the group, as well as hurt Tom..but at the last minute, see the error of his ways, and sacrifice himself.

(That's my speculation)

Now, I wonder how he lost his kids...from the invasion, or something else?
 
I probably shouldn't have read these comments before I finished watching the ep. Guess I now know who dies.


:alienblush:
 
The deaths on last night's episode actually made me laugh instead of feel sad. Maybe it was the awful setting up of said deaths or the dialog they had to spew.

The very last scene, with Pope practically twirling a mustache and going "Muwhahaha," just made me laugh. I couldn't help it. I mean, Jesus, could this be more of a cliche? It's ridiculous.

This was poorly written, poorly directed,poorly paced, the works. The beginning, which was supposed to be some grand attack, had an almost, "Oh, yeah, OK. Ho-hum," feel to it. This was just a dreadful episode. I love Noah Wylie but this show just annoys me know. Even my hubby, who is determined to watch the show until the bitter end, shouted out, "Oh, you're SO dead!" when
the couple made goo-goo eyes and talked about having kids one day.

OY.
 
The whole show is just off. The awful writing is probably the root of all the other problems (star child, Lourdes, Anthony's PTSD, the love triangle), but the staging is also awkward. In the season premiere there was a scene where Sara detonated the bomb with her pinpoint shooting and they were celebrating afterward, and the whole thing just felt off, like it didn't belong or the actors had no idea what to do in that moment.
 
Well, this is, and always has been, a B-Movie kind of show; but that was totally unnecessary. Poor Pope. Give the guy a break.
 
So Pope and Sarah were tracking the skitters back to their reproduction base, right? How did they end up going the opposite direction of the base? :lol:
 
So Pope and Sarah were tracking the skitters back to their reproduction base, right? How did they end up going the opposite direction of the base? :lol:
Did I miss something? I didn't get that impression. Pope wanted them to stop on the way to the facility, and Tom said they would swing back afterwards. Sounds like it was on the way, not in the opposite direction
 
So Pope and Sarah were tracking the skitters back to their reproduction base, right? How did they end up going the opposite direction of the base? :lol:
Did I miss something? I didn't get that impression. Pope wanted them to stop on the way to the facility, and Tom said they would swing back afterwards. Sounds like it was on the way, not in the opposite direction

Tom said it was in the opposite direction, otherwise they could have spent a few minutes on the way to free Sarah or just dropped Pope off there with the flamethrower on the way to the reproduction center. Yes they made no sense why Skitters were coming from the opposite direction then the reproduction Center.
 
So, this episode is was a little bit better than last. Loved the bits with Cochise and kind of shocking what happened to his dad. Wondering if he knew that was going to happen all along. Kind of a strange B-plot thing to have come up all of a sudden. Clearly some kind of set-up for something later (hopefully).

+20 for the '69 Camaro SS! That thing is da shit! :eek:

I can't help thinking that this whole Pope thing going off the rails simply never needed to happen. As others have pointed out, they were tracking the skitters back to their spawn point and Tom should have easily been able to rescue Sara on the way out. It was poorly written, manufactured and contrived. And now, we have a situation with him going all Colonel Kurtz on them at a key point in the life cycle on the resistance against the Espheni. Oh, well. It's the last season. He can die now...
 
^^^Frankly he should have died last night. That's what I hoped was going to happen, but Braveheart Librarian just handed him the gun...
 
So Anthony goes from being the top soldier to "They took away my gun. Now I hate the Masons and don't understand why people die in war"? He's not even a character, he's whatever the plot requires. The only regular who was even less of a character on this show was Dai, and all we ever knew about him was that he had Wolverine healing abilities.
 
Pope's argument about the Mason family coming out of every engagement without a scratch was utter BS, too.

Mason rightly pointed out the death of his daughter as a prime example, sacrificing herself to take out the power station on the moon, arguably saving all of humanity in the process. And I think the middle son's harnessing and subsequent side effects qualifies as a little more than just a "scratch". Not to mention the numerous intangible and psychological wounds that people suffer from when in extended combat.

The show will likely end with the triumphant victory over the Espheni, but the mental and emotional toll that it has taken on the Mason family and so many others as a whole will likely never be explored. Pope has become too blinded by stupid rage out of self-pity to even fathom those angles.
 
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