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Star Wars: Episode VII: The Nerd Rage Awakens

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Haha, nice.
We've got new covers and descriptions for some of the Journey to The Force Awakens books over on StarWars.com.
So it sounds like Aftermath is actually going to be focusing on Wedge Antilles and some new characters. I was expecting this to be the big Han, Luke, Leia post-ROTJ story, so this surprises me.
I'm already wondering if Norra Wexley's son might be Poe Dameron or Kylo Ren or one of the other new characters.
Since it's not Aftermath, then I have to wonder if Shattered Empire might be the Luke, Leia, Han, ect. post- ROTJ story.
 
Yeah, I've seen those covers. I was just thinking that maybe they both featured the big three, just at different times, but that sounds unlikely now.
 
Master of mediocrity set direct Episode 9.

Just because someone's direction is "pretty good" and "not bad" doesn't mean they should direct a film in a franchise that once was defined by bold visions.

As somebody who was bored shitless during "The Misadventures of Androgynous Rex" (Ooooooo.......it has opposeable digits and camouflages!!!! So, it's just a T-Rex that can use eating utensils that we can't see?!?!? Yes, as they claimed in the film - this is going to terrify adults!!!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: ), this is TERRIBLE news for me and is the very first misstep in Disney's handling of the property thus far.
 
Well I was kinda hoping JJ would return, but this seems like a solid enough choice. Jurassic World may not have been the most original thing ever, but Trevorrow still managed to take a really tired idea and actually make it seem kinda cool and exciting again (at least for a majority of people), which is pretty impressive.

And hopefully he'll be working with a much better story for Episode 9.
 
Well, it's mixed news for me. First of all, we don't know what the tone or story of Ep. 7 is, much less 8, much less 9. So far, Disney has demonstrated a tight hold of the strings with regards to the Star Wars property, and what direction the franchise is going.

I'm not ready for the doom and gloom news, just yet. I'll wait until after Ep. 7 comes out first.
 
I just think that when Star Wars worked best, the directors pushed the envelope. JW was not bad.. in fact it was good, but everything about it was the definition of milquetoast.. the material had no edge. I don't like the idea that Hollywood has to embrace mediocrity. We wouldn't have gotten the original SW trilogy or even LotR if they thought then what they think now.

Of course, people still think that directors ar important, and they are, but they no longer risk as much when they take on a project like this. Lucas had tofight a studio that hated SW, he suffered form hypertension. Kirshner was making the first big budget sequel to a beloved film EVER, making it bigger, and making it end on a dour note.. this was a huge risk. Cameron broke new ground with his Terminator and Aliens movies, and they were all super risky as how he incorporated special effects. By contrast, today's blockbuster directors simple "take a job" direct, and go home.. the studios have their vision so the directors are hired guns only. All the real creative decisions are made by the producers.
 
I just think that when Star Wars worked best, the directors pushed the envelope. JW was not bad.. in fact it was good, but everything about it was the definition of milquetoast.. the material had no edge. I don't like the idea that Hollywood has to embrace mediocrity. We wouldn't have gotten the original SW trilogy or even LotR if they thought then what they think now.

Of course, people still think that directors ar important, and they are, but they no longer risk as much when they take on a project like this. Lucas had tofight a studio that hated SW, he suffered form hypertension. Kirshner was making the first big budget sequel to a beloved film EVER, making it bigger, and making it end on a dour note.. this was a huge risk. Cameron broke new ground with his Terminator and Aliens movies, and they were all super risky as how he incorporated special effects. By contrast, today's blockbuster directors simple "take a job" direct, and go home.. the studios have their vision so the directors are hired guns only. All the real creative decisions are made by the producers.

On JW, I agree, to a certain degree. It certainly did nothing "new" in terms of taking any point of view with the Jurassic Park/World concept, save for a few bits.

But, studios right now are playing it safe. They are not going to risk money on an idea that might not make its money back. I think Disney might grant Ep. 8 and 9 a little more latitude when Ep.7 is done and has made some money. Hollywood embraces mediocrity because they are afraid to lose money.

That's why I'm reluctant to condemn such news when we have Ep. 7 release to go through, we have several years before pre-production of Ep. 9 begins, and Trevorrow will still be making films and learning about directing.

There are so many unknowns that will come in to play that I can't be anything but cautiously optimistic.
 
I wouldn't go to quite the extreme FSM is. There are still a lot of smaller indie directors, and big name directors who write and produce themselves and have pretty much complete control. I doubt there's a lot of intereference from other producers when people like Spielberg or Scorsese are directing a movie.
And besides as a movie watcher, I really don't give a crap who's making the creative decisions as long as I enjoy those decisions, and as long as those decisions lead to movies like the MCU, and Jurrasic World I'm happy.

I really liked Jurrasic World, so this news makes me pretty happy.
 
I'm keeping an open mind and going to be as optimistic as possible unless given good reason to think otherwise. After all, Lucas himself didn't exactly craft the best sci-fi/fantasy movie in cinema history when he directed Attack of the Clones, and Richard Marquand's film career didn't exactly shine like a supernova outside of Return of the Jedi.

So-so directors can helm good or even great movies and great directors can make crap. It happens. That's the business.
 
ROTJ wasn't that good though and there is some serious discussion that much of it was directed by Lucas uncredited.

A better example would be Irvin Kershner doing ESTB and then being responsible for shit like Robocop 2.
 
A better example would be Irvin Kershner doing ESTB and then being responsible for shit like Robocop 2.

Kersh's career was really weird. He did some great character pieces like The Flim-Flam Man and Hoodlum Priest, then does Empire out of nowhere and proceeded to shit out Never Say Never Again and RoboCop 2. Although, in Robo2's case, it's very competently directed (surprisingly, since Kersh was in a wheelchair for most of the shoot), it's just that the script was a complete fucking mess.
 
He also directed The Eyes of Laura Mars, which has received quite a few positive reviews and developed a devoted fanbase.
 
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