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Janeway's Ethics

To me, Janeway [if Voyager was real] would have lots of plans for how to cut up Voyager for parts, and turn the lop sided bugger into a planet locked city, and further more after what happened to Voyager, the next generations of Starships would be designed to be pulled apart to make living some where far away, not so shitty.
 
The psychological impact is negligible!? The impact would be massive: potentially never seeing family/Earth ever again would be a tremendous strain.

All Starfleet crews sign up for the excitement and danger of deep space travel and the risks that brings. If she can't handle that then she's is the wrong job. Additionally, none of the crew think for a second that they're actually gonna be in the Delta quadrant that long. The Maquis crew (especially Chakotay) are positively thrilled at their new circumstances.

While many starships are attacked, none have to contend with the reality that critical damage may spell complete doom even if they win the fight

And neither did Voyager.

To me, Janeway [if Voyager was real] would be under tremendous strain, unlike anything the other hero captains have endured.

To me, Janeway [if Voyager was real] would have arrived home then various high-ranking Stafleet officers would have had read all the logs and debriefed the entire crew.

Then Janeway would have been be promoted to admiral as quickly as possible and put behind a desk in some dark corner in order to ensure that she never commands a Starship ever again.

Which is pretty much what happened.

Her worst behaviour was when Janeway had no choices to make.

So basically, you're saying that even when she wasn't making a decision, she still somehow managed to make the wrong decision.
 
Well it's the rubber band snapping isn't it?

I'm not sure why, but the episode was about showing Janeway with PTSD.

And apparently, in the future, the only way to cure some one fucked up by being in the shit, is to put them back in the shit.

Her life is only manageable during a crisis.
 
Waiting to become 'battered and bruised' is not efficient planning. Regardless of the ship condition, the situation itself required completely different handling. The ship is shown under rationing, traversing Borg space, being harassed by numerous hostile species [Kazon etc] and generally having to face seventy years of hardship. That is not a luxury cruise.

It was the love boat.

None of those examples are outside the purview of what a captain is expected to endure without massively losing their shit. The rationing was a non-issue, Borg space was traversed by Janeway helping them to annihilate another species (nice work), Starships are harassed as a matter of course. Everyone on board knew they weren't going to be traveling for 70 years so the psychological impact of that is negligible.

I don't see her dealing with anything that other captains haven't dealt with. The only exception being that she is cut off from Starfleet and the Federation (and that was only until message in a bottle). If she was under perpetual pressure then why did her erratic behaviour only manifest during the big calls. She was perfectly fine for all the other stuff.


The psychological impact is negligible!? The impact would be massive: potentially never seeing family/Earth ever again would be a tremendous strain.

While many starships are attacked, none have to contend with the reality that critical damage may spell complete doom even if they win the fight. The Enterprise can always send a distress call, the Defiant can be towed home...Voyager cant. One mistake, a destroyed nacelle...and they are in severe trouble.

To me, Janeway [if Voyager was real] would be under tremendous strain, unlike anything the other hero captains have endured.

You are quite correct the impact would be massive. Unfortunantly I don't think VOY really sold us on the idea that these people might never see home again, which in my opinion was a missed opportunity.
 
The Academy Psych Test, doesn't let mental weaklings into the Officers Ranks of Starfleet, and the Enlisted do what they're told, or they have to eat punishment gruel.
 
But how can you tell who is a mental weakling. You have an Academy entry pysche test and you're testing a bunch of 20 year olds or younger who have grown up on Disney Earth. There's no way to tell how they will handle real life when they are the product of a perfect bubble.
 
The Psych test was only ever seen in one episode of TNG made in 1987, written by women.

It's really a question of how evolved you think 80s women are, or were.
 
They probably don't have psyche tests, they probably just pass the medical tricorder over your head and read out your resilience, irritability, attention span.
 
In TOS they had the psychotricorder, that could determine guilt, innocence, lies and insanity.

You don't remember Wesley's Psych test in Coming of Age?

Starfleet cosplayed a radiation leak/explosion where every one was dying.

He had to chose to save person A or B, but not both, which mirrored how Picard killed his dad Jack.
 
Yes we only see the sanitized version of Klingon society, the haha gagh and the stupid swashbuckling on the bridge. I'm sure they are utterly disgusting and reprehensible and all the nice humans would boycott them and we would have a bloodsoaked K'Gate once people saw what kind of folk their Federation overlords were in bed with.
 
OOOOR... We probably just saw the Klingon versions of Terran batshit "billionaires" like Ross Pierrot, Rupert Murdock, the Koch brothers or Howard Hughes who were unhinged from reality.
 
No, we've seen a couple hundred, out of trillions.

Would you make love to Buzz Aldren?

(If his wife gave you a thumbs up.)
 
So many paper cuts.

Tex from last Ship plays a 200 year old immortal villain in Alphas, trying to control human evolution.

Fought in the civil war.
 
If you got to the end, and saw how he fought, you'd cringe.

"I am a southern gentleman who knows that slavery is wrong, so I will, start an under ground railroad, and take all my slaves to the north so piss poorly that I am constantly caught by effete morons, until I fight them."

Tex used his immortality well. He wasn't super intelligent, but he did view every one as a child who needed guidance.

Wasn't there another guy like that IRL who got half of Europe to call him Father?
 
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