I really like what the Continues crew have done so far and am greatly looking forward to May 29th. So are there any episodes you would like to see get redone? I would go with Balance of Terror one of my favorites. I think tribbles would be too easy and the most popular choice but I am curious.
which TOS episode would you like to see the Continues crew do
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Agreed that redoing an episode would be a waste of all the time, talent and resources involved (also illegal unless they pay for the rights to re-do the work of other writers), but if for any reason someone were to remake an episode, I would pick a crappy one. Remaking a fan favorite will not end happily for anyone (no fan production will ever come close matching or improving the original versions of The Doomsday Machine, City on the Edge of Forever or Amok Time, sorry) . Pick a failure and make it good. If possible.
Redo none of them. Thanks.
It wouldn't be illegal if there was no money involved. In fact, this is true of any fan Trek production whether they use an existing script or an original one.
There was a local theatrical company here in Portland (Atomic Arts) that, for five years running, presented episodes of Star Trek (one episode per summer) using the episode scripts verbatim, but reformated to work as a stage play. No laws were broken as they did not charge any admission. And it was very popular, by their fifth and final year, every show had thousands of people in attendance. They did "Amok Time," "Space Seed," "Mirror, Mirror," "Journey to Babel," and "The Trouble With Tribbles."
I think the key to using existing stories to is radically change the format, as Atomic Arts did with their Trek in the Prk series. You could do an original episode, but maybe as a 1930's serial, or as a Steampunk fantasy, or as sock puppets, or anything, really. A slavish reproduction would be boring and an attempt to "improve" on the original would no doubt fall flat also.
I think the fan film productions that do best are those that ply new waters so to speak and write some original material. If doing actual TOS scripts, it's gotta be played for laughs.
--Alex
"The Alternative Alternative Factor?"
Actually, this isn't a bad idea at all, but I wouldn't suggest it to any particular production company as something I'd like for them to do. It is a very interesting prospect, pretty outside the box. It brings to mind "To Serve All My Days," specifically in the sense of being an exercise outside canonical continuity (which in that case produced marvellous results IMO).
Whatever team is inspired to do such a thing should, and obviously those who aren't shouldn't.
I would not like to see any episode (good or bad) redone. No revisioning, no remake, no copying of dialogue. It just be the same if it could be improved.
Either new material or sequel or using a concept from earlier are best in my opinion. But that's just my thoughts.
Either new material or sequel or using a concept from earlier are best in my opinion. But that's just my thoughts.
The obvious answer....Assignment Earth ( ok ok so its a spin off I know, but the promised us the advertures of Gary Seven and Roberta Lincoln, lets see one.)
Unfortunately, you REALLY don't understand copyright law. Money has nothing to do with it.
If a copyright owner wants to shut down ANY production (video, stage, audit, comics), all they have to do is say "Stop", and the production must shut down. Nothing to do with whether they're making any money or not.
I think the observation is that the copyright owners have been (so far) disinterested in pursuing copyright infringement actions against fan film productions--with the proviso that no income is derived from the production. In the case of our Phase II productions, CBS Consumer Products has been gracious enough to not pursue any copyright actions against us, and we agree to not earn income. We also agreed, as of a couple of years ago, to not produce any Star Trek material that has already been bought and paid for by Desilu/Paramount/CBS. So no previously-released novels, comic books, scripts, etc. We can only do "original" Star Trek stuff. (I think we're all aware that even that is probably "copyright infringement," but it appears to be one with which CBS seems to be okay for now.
Nah a stinker episode is a stinker episode. Good episodes would be better and I think rational fans would appreciate it. I think some of you are right though it wouldn't make sense to do this early on. Perhaps after they have made a bunch of episodes this would work. And please remember guys don't be rude to new fans if you really want star trek to continue try being nice.
There are some interesting possibilities for re-making some of TOS' legendary stinkers, such as "Spock's Brain", but more to the point, I'd like to see new stories or sequels to existing ones. "Fairest of Them All" was a great sequel to "Mirror, Mirror". But it would be more important to try new stories that aren't hitched to existing TOS stories.
I would instead like to see conceptual remakes. An example: "The Enterprise Incident" was a memorable confrontation with the Romulans, but it was harshly criticized for misreading the Pueblo Incident of 1968, in which the U.S. Navy ship was captured by the North Koreans and accused of espionage. In 1989, Ronald D. Moore came on board with the TNG crew and wrote "The Defector", which seemed to be a grim counterpoint to "The Enterprise Incident". It would be hard to shoe-horn a story like "The Defector" into TOS, since the Federation at that time had no clear allies who could use a cloaking device to surprise the Romulans. But there are possibilities with the earlier TNG ep "The Enemy", which did not involve the use of a cloaking device. Perhaps after Kirk stole the then-"new" Romulan device, the Romulans want revenge and decide to hatch a covert scheme to cause harm by secretly crossing the Neutral Zone to damage Earth outposts, until they are caught.
"Territories... you would measure territories against a man's life?!" (-- Commander Tomalok, "The Enemy") Why wouldn't that work with a TOS-based story? It's a classic Cold War plot. It's also possible that a Federation starship named Pueblo could be captured or destroyed before Kirk can thwart the plot.
I would instead like to see conceptual remakes. An example: "The Enterprise Incident" was a memorable confrontation with the Romulans, but it was harshly criticized for misreading the Pueblo Incident of 1968, in which the U.S. Navy ship was captured by the North Koreans and accused of espionage. In 1989, Ronald D. Moore came on board with the TNG crew and wrote "The Defector", which seemed to be a grim counterpoint to "The Enterprise Incident". It would be hard to shoe-horn a story like "The Defector" into TOS, since the Federation at that time had no clear allies who could use a cloaking device to surprise the Romulans. But there are possibilities with the earlier TNG ep "The Enemy", which did not involve the use of a cloaking device. Perhaps after Kirk stole the then-"new" Romulan device, the Romulans want revenge and decide to hatch a covert scheme to cause harm by secretly crossing the Neutral Zone to damage Earth outposts, until they are caught.
"Territories... you would measure territories against a man's life?!" (-- Commander Tomalok, "The Enemy") Why wouldn't that work with a TOS-based story? It's a classic Cold War plot. It's also possible that a Federation starship named Pueblo could be captured or destroyed before Kirk can thwart the plot.
Now if the production was clearly a parody, that should be safe from copyright difficulties.
I don't want to see any episodes redone. Period. What's the point? Those stories are done. I like the new stories and I have to say that I really enjoyed "Lolani". Looking forward to the next story.
It would be pointless for Star Trek CONTINUES to devolve into a show that remakes old episodes. That's a waste of the time and talent of everyone involved with the production. New, original stories are far more compelling.
For the record, none of the responses have seemed rude to me, it seems that everyone disagrees with your viewpoint. That'll happen on a message board.
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