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Man of Steel Appreciation

As a Bourbon Street musician, I have always decided that if (by some strange chance...especially at my age...45) I should ever actually write a hit original and make it big, and I end up with tons of folks who like my work, I would have something I would like to say to them:

"Thank you so much. It means more than you know that you like my work. I will continue to try and put out material for you to enjoy, but I must ask a favor: Please, do not become fans of my work. I want to be able to write what I want to write, without feeling like all of a sudden everything I do has to meet with some baseless standard that only fans would approve of. Judge each of my works on their own merits and flaws....not by what you think should be the defining signature of each. I do not wish to feel constrained to someone else's standards on material that they have absolutely no hand in shaping."

Something like that. :)
 
I always wonder why people are ok with Superman killing Zod in Superman II and not MOS, is it just because it's played more for laughs with a cellophane S? I am glad that in MOS he has the agony of the choice that I am sure is going to haunt him in BvS and create great growth opportunities.

Good question.

IIRC, actually, in Superman II, Supes tosses depowered Zod away and Zod slides down into a deep chasm, deep enough that we don't hear him hit bottom. (The other villains wind up falling into the same chasm, or similarly deep and adjacent ones.) And we don't see it either. So, it's essentially off-screen, fans can deny (feebly) that Zod was actually killed then, and I suspect that's actually the difference. Well, one difference. Perhaps another reason is that it's a film from a different era, and younger fans aren't as emotionally invested in it having rocked in their opinion.
 
I liked the premise of MoS (superhero as alien), the look of it (the anodised steel look of Supes' costume) and the actors (especially the hero and Zod) - but sadly the dreary music RUINED it for me. It was like being trapped in some sort of industrial processor. I am depressed that Zimmer is back for the sequel.
 
Well, I quite enjoyed Zimmer's score (as I have in most cases). Made for a clear break from the Williams version (which I also quite like, but I enjoy the contrast). Different strokes and all that.
 
The last score where Martha is asking Clark on what he wants to do is awesome. I really enjoyed it especially the overlay with Jonathan and the build up to Superman's identity. I honestly think that this movie was not about Kal-el becoming Superman but Clark Kent.
 
I liked the premise of MoS (superhero as alien), the look of it (the anodised steel look of Supes' costume) and the actors (especially the hero and Zod) - but sadly the dreary music RUINED it for me. It was like being trapped in some sort of industrial processor. I am depressed that Zimmer is back for the sequel.

I feel that way about almost every Zimmer score since Gladiator -- even his video game scores! To me his style tends to be too monolithic, too serious, too grave.
 
I thought the score was fantastic, and a perfect fit to the movie. All I wish is that we got to hear his great new Superman theme (which was a big presence in all the trailers) more often than just at the very end.

I realize it was done that way for a reason, but I still wish we could have heard it a lot more than we did.
 
I do have to say, the score works for me. I love the new theme for Superman, it's different of course, but I still feel the immense sense of hope when I hear it.
 
I feel that way about almost every Zimmer score since Gladiator -- even his video game scores! To me his style tends to be too monolithic, too serious, too grave.

Thank you! Glad someone agrees with me. I think the grindingly monotonous score was the main reason so many people wrote MoS off as "depressing"...
 
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I like most superhero movies regardless if the score is full of bombast, or employs seriousness. The music should suit the story, and Willams (and follow on composers) did great for the Reeves/Routh Superman movies, and Zimmer did just fine for MoS.

Personal opinions only. :)
 
I like most superhero movies regardless if the score is full of bombast, or employs seriousness. The music should suit the story, and Willams (and follow on composers) did great for the Reeves/Routh Superman movies, and Zimmer did just fine for MoS.

Personal opinions only. :)

I think it is really personal, but I don't think it ruins the movie. Plus I do think that flying theme the "What are you going to do when you are not saving the world" theme is incredible and hopefully it's expounded upon in BvS. In the end, Zimmer had to stay as far away from sounding like Williams and create something that would hopefully be iconic and I do think that theme is epic.
 
I loved Man of Steel. I connected with the characters, it had surprising depth, the action was insane (in the good way) and it has one of my favourite soundtracks ever.

I hope Batman v Superman is a worthy follow-up, and doesn't suffer from the kind of character overload which (IMO) plagued Age of Ultron. The DC movieverse might just be awesome.
 
I like most superhero movies regardless if the score is full of bombast, or employs seriousness. The music should suit the story, and Willams (and follow on composers) did great for the Reeves/Routh Superman movies, and Zimmer did just fine for MoS.

Personal opinions only. :)

I think it is really personal, but I don't think it ruins the movie. Plus I do think that flying theme the "What are you going to do when you are not saving the world" theme is incredible and hopefully it's expounded upon in BvS. In the end, Zimmer had to stay as far away from sounding like Williams and create something that would hopefully be iconic and I do think that theme is epic.

Couldn't agree more. All the themes, suited their respective films. I love the Zimmer scores of the new films as much as I love the Williams' (Williams' inspired) scores of the Reeve/Routh era. :)
 
As much as the Williams score is the definitive music for the Superman franchise, at the end of the day it's nostalgia that keeps me coming back to it.
 
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