Supergirl TV Series is being work on.
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I'm laughing, because I just had a thought. Let's say CBS stands firm on Supergirl being a separate world from the CW-verse. And let's say Supergirl is such a success that CBS hires Berlanti to do spinoffs with other superheroes, set in the same world. (After all, CBS has done that before with franchises like CSI and JAG/NCIS.) A few years from now, Berlanti could be in charge of two separate multi-show superhero universes.
Edit: By the way, here's an outtake from the photoshoot, and I think it's my favorite of them all:
https://instagram.com/p/21hISYAVB5/
At the starting line of the Flash/Supergirl race!
Edit: By the way, here's an outtake from the photoshoot, and I think it's my favorite of them all:
https://instagram.com/p/21hISYAVB5/
At the starting line of the Flash/Supergirl race!
Actually, she's usually been always a member of the Legion of Superheroes. But she was a member of the Titans in the pre-New 52 era for a short while.
Exactly! I actually got in an argument with someone on Facebook who is convinced that a crossover will "Never, Ever Happen".
My reading is CBS is just being cautious for now. Supergirl has not even aired yet. They are hoping its a success but they have to know its established itself as a hit on it own terms.
This is a different situation than The Flash. Not just because its own a separate network. I do not think competitiveness is really the real issue. CBS and Warner Bros jointly own the CW. No the real issue is that Supergirl is not a direct spinoff from anything. While the Flash was from Arrow. If the Flash had not been as successful it would have been very easy to have Grant Gustin continue as a guest star on Arrow if a Flash series had never happened. Because that is how he started.
I think fans just have to be patient. Supergirl needs to have its own storylines on firm ground before expecting this.
My reading is CBS is just being cautious for now. Supergirl has not even aired yet. They are hoping its a success but they have to know its established itself as a hit on it own terms.
This is a different situation than The Flash. Not just because its own a separate network. I do not think competitiveness is really the real issue. CBS and Warner Bros jointly own the CW. No the real issue is that Supergirl is not a direct spinoff from anything. While the Flash was from Arrow. If the Flash had not been as successful it would have been very easy to have Grant Gustin continue as a guest star on Arrow if a Flash series had never happened. Because that is how he started.
I think fans just have to be patient. Supergirl needs to have its own storylines on firm ground before expecting this.
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The way I read Berlanti's statement is that CBS doesn't want a crossover, but if the show is successful enough, Berlanti may be able to use the clout that gives him to convince them to change their minds. Basically, he wants it and they don't, and the only way he'll win that argument is if he gets successful enough to do whatever he wants. That hardly makes it inevitable. It's not impossible, but we shouldn't hold our breaths.
^ I think that is exactly what Berlanti was hoping people would feel. Seeing them together I can already imagine the footrace across the earth to see who is faster. CBS really needs to let the crossover happen sooner rather than later.
^But as Berlanti says, "there's a lot that would have to happen before everybody might say yes to that." Which seems to mean that there are multiple people saying no right now, and it would take a lot to change their minds, and even then it's just a "might." So he's trying to sound optimistic about a crossover, but reading between the lines, I really don't think it's a realistic prospect.
Given everything else we have heard on the crossover front from multiple people, I honestly believe that people outside the situation are completely misreading Berlanti and Tassler's comments - all of which read almost word-for-word identical - to mean that crossover is entirely OFF-THE-TABLE.
Time will tell, though.
Time will tell, though.
Assuming Supergirl is a success it is likely the show will run a few years as is pretty much certain for Flash, too.
A lot can happen in that time.
One of them could even theoretically change networks, right?
A lot can happen in that time.
One of them could even theoretically change networks, right?
I crossover is highly unlikely. CBS suits still run their network like it's 1986.
Well given:
- CBS co-owns the CW network
- In markets were CBS owns two local stations, those stations often cross-promote
IF 'Supergirl' and 'Flash' are/remain fairly successful respectively; I think they might do something in a sweeps period. But as many have said - 'Supergirl' has yet to air and see if it finds/maintains a large audience.
Remember BSG 2003: NBC saw that Sci-Fi was getting a lot of buzz in the run up to it's airing; got VERY GOOD ratings for a Sci-Fi program and showed the mini-series on NBC itself, where it FAILED big time to get respectable ratings on the network airing.
My point: They may find a show like 'Supergirl' doesn't do well on CBS, so until they know, ANY talk of potential crossovers with other shows is VERY premature.
Actually I hate to say it (and I really hope it doesn't come to this), but the best bet for crossovers might be if Supergirl doesn't do great in the ratings and gets cancelled, and then Berlanti simply transfers the character over to Legends of Tomorrow or one of his other CW shows.
Or if they can't even afford to depict her powers on a full-time basis, they could at least let her make occasional appearances on that show or Flash. I have to imagine Berlanti's clout with CBS would at least allow him to do that much.
Or if they can't even afford to depict her powers on a full-time basis, they could at least let her make occasional appearances on that show or Flash. I have to imagine Berlanti's clout with CBS would at least allow him to do that much.
Sure, but that's just publicity, to get viewers to tune in. It's a different matter from a crossover, which would require a sharing of creative control and be a much bigger step for a network's executives to take.
That's not the point. As with most things in life, this isn't a choice between binary extremes, but a matter of where things fall on the probability spectrum. Yes, of course, the probability of a crossover is above zero, but that doesn't mean it's anywhere near 100 percent. As I said, Berlanti's comment indicates that a lot would have to happen in order to convince all the decision makers to even think about saying yes. So the probability of it happening is pretty low, and we'd be foolish to assume it will happen. It could happen, obviously, but that doesn't mean we should get our hopes up.
Just saying "It's not impossible" is meaningless. It's not impossible that we could be contacted by aliens tomorrow, but that doesn't mean you could safely bet money on it. It's not impossible that you could win the lottery, but it's overwhelmingly likely that you won't. Possible/impossible is too vague and trivial a standard to be worth talking about. Probability is what's important. And the probability here, given what we know, is a long way from a lead-pipe cinch. Better odds than winning the lottery -- after all, what isn't? -- but still unlikely.
That seems unlikely. As Berlanti says in the Variety article, Supergirl couldn't be done on The CW because they couldn't give it nearly the budget that CBS can.
Is a crossover really so important that it's become the only thing we're talking about? Frankly I can see why CBS is discouraging one -- because all the focus on the CW shows is overshadowing Supergirl itself. I can understand why they want it to stand on its own and establish its own name, its own voice.
I quite enjoy the interconnectedness of the CW shows, but that doesn't mean everything needs to be interconnected. There's value to shared continuity and there's value to standing apart and doing your own thing. If we can have Earth-1 and Earth-2, if we can have Marvel 616 and Ultimate, if we can have the MCU and the X-Men film universe, then we can survive having a CW DC universe and a CBS DC universe. And maybe in time we'll be glad they aren't the same. That's not impossible.
If it turns out that Supergirl isn't set in the "Flarrow"-verse, Legends of Tomorrow is, IMO, the perfect vehicle for facilitating crossover between the SG-verse whether Flarrow-verse.
@Christopher: Based on everything that has been said by multiple individuals concerning the subject, I firmly believe that the ability to do crossover has already been approved, but that is not where the focus is at the moment.
@Christopher: Based on everything that has been said by multiple individuals concerning the subject, I firmly believe that the ability to do crossover has already been approved, but that is not where the focus is at the moment.
As I've said, the Flash in the comics has the ability to cross between alternate realities. "Flash of Two Worlds" was the beginning of DC's multiverse in the first place. So that potential's implicit even without Legends.
And good grief, "Flarrow-verse" is the worst name I've heard yet for the continuity. I think it should be called the DC Legends Universe.
That seems imcompatible with what Berlanti said: "there's a lot that would have to happen before everybody might say yes to that." Which makes it pretty clear that everybody has not said yes to that yet, and a number of people are a long way from even potentially saying yes (because he says "might say yes" rather than "will say"). What I'm hearing from everything that's been said is that Berlanti wants a crossover, but he's meeting with heavy resistance to the idea and knows that it'll take a lot of effort and favorable circumstances to change people's minds.
I agree with both of you, mostly. I think it can happen. My guess it it will at some point down the line. But I don't think its really an important an issue yet. lets see if Supergirl (or Legends) are even good first! I am very optimistic and excited by both. But I will already predict there will be some fans who do not like Supergirl and demand it stays separate. lol Its what fans do!
Lets just appreciate that we are going to have 4 live action DC superhero shows in prime time! ( I don't count Gotham) That is AMAZING!
Lets just appreciate that we are going to have 4 live action DC superhero shows in prime time! ( I don't count Gotham) That is AMAZING!
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