Did the constant increase in size of each Enterprise get ridiculous?
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A friend of mine noted that actor Joseph Cotten is steadily getting his filmography rewritten with a name changed by some cotton-picking spellchecker!
Exactly. A single example can be a mere slip of the fingers. But I've seen posts--and even blogs and printed articles--in which Khan is spelled "Kahn" consistently throughout. Which indicates to me that much of the world really does think that's how it's spelled.
And, alas, these kind of errors tend to be self-perpetuating. People see "Kahn" or "cannon" or "rouge" everywhere and naturally assume that's the correct spelling.
I once read an on-line article on MY FAIR LADY which kept referring to Rex Harrison as "Rex Harrington." That was bad enough, but what was really scary was how every other post in the Comments thread automatically repeated the error:
"Rex Harrington was so great in that movie."
"Nobody will ever replace Rex Harrington."
"Rex Harrington should have won an Oscar."
Once one of these errors gets traction, they're harder to eradicate than weeds!
And don't get me started on Claude "Raines."
A friend of mine noted that actor Joseph Cotten is steadily getting his filmography rewritten with a name changed by some cotton-picking spellchecker!
Re: Did the constant increase in size of each Enterprise get ridiculou
This thread turned into “Did the constant increase in number of misspellings get ridiculous”
I almost wrote Stephen Hawkins instead of Hawking.
I´m going to wear sackcloth and asches. (I hope this is correct. If not, mea culpa)
This thread turned into “Did the constant increase in number of misspellings get ridiculous”
I almost wrote Stephen Hawkins instead of Hawking.
I´m going to wear sackcloth and asches. (I hope this is correct. If not, mea culpa)
Re: Did the constant increase in size of each Enterprise get ridiculou
How I hate you auto-correct, you mother forklift!
How I hate you auto-correct, you mother forklift!
Re: Did the constant increase in size of each Enterprise get ridiculou
One of my favorite auto-correct fails:
One of my favorite auto-correct fails:
Re: Did the constant increase in size of each Enterprise get ridiculou
This is what bothers me about large ships-
-my disbelief is already suspended, an unreasonably large ship stretches it even more. I don't mind there being big ships but they need to serve a big purpose like a transport ship or something.
-it kills drama and intimacy. The fact that the TOS Enterprise is the size it is out in such a big galaxy makes it seem more vulnerable and therefore much more interesting dramatically. The Galaxy Class feels like a giant cruise ship complete with little children running around and a bridge that feels like a lounge in a Holiday Inn (all that beige and wood!) Again completely ruining drama. Is this Star Trek or Love Boat in space?
Big ships require bigger crews and too many people ruin drama as well. The brain can only think about so many characters at once so you lose quality for the sake of quantity. The new Abrams bridge is too busy and has far too many people including two people standing right behind the Captain who look like they are taking reservations at a restaurant! That ruins opportunities for dramatic or intimate exchanges as well. All those great little moments between Kirk Spock and McCoy at the Captains chair are now lost because two strangers are standing right behind them (presumably still taking reservations) making it seem awkward because we KNOW they are standing there listening. How could they not?
So all of those great moments are lost so the bridge can look busier?
Clearly not well thought out.
For me, great cinema is about moments especially between main characters. That being said it should be the goal to create as many opportunities for such moments as possible. Giant ships and throngs of people DO NOT create good moments other than Gee-Whiz look at the size of that/all those people!
Those types of moments should be relegated to Disney Theme Parks, not great Science Fiction.
Spockboy
This is what bothers me about large ships-
-my disbelief is already suspended, an unreasonably large ship stretches it even more. I don't mind there being big ships but they need to serve a big purpose like a transport ship or something.
-it kills drama and intimacy. The fact that the TOS Enterprise is the size it is out in such a big galaxy makes it seem more vulnerable and therefore much more interesting dramatically. The Galaxy Class feels like a giant cruise ship complete with little children running around and a bridge that feels like a lounge in a Holiday Inn (all that beige and wood!) Again completely ruining drama. Is this Star Trek or Love Boat in space?
Big ships require bigger crews and too many people ruin drama as well. The brain can only think about so many characters at once so you lose quality for the sake of quantity. The new Abrams bridge is too busy and has far too many people including two people standing right behind the Captain who look like they are taking reservations at a restaurant! That ruins opportunities for dramatic or intimate exchanges as well. All those great little moments between Kirk Spock and McCoy at the Captains chair are now lost because two strangers are standing right behind them (presumably still taking reservations) making it seem awkward because we KNOW they are standing there listening. How could they not?
So all of those great moments are lost so the bridge can look busier?
Clearly not well thought out.
For me, great cinema is about moments especially between main characters. That being said it should be the goal to create as many opportunities for such moments as possible. Giant ships and throngs of people DO NOT create good moments other than Gee-Whiz look at the size of that/all those people!
Those types of moments should be relegated to Disney Theme Parks, not great Science Fiction.
Spockboy
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That must create some interesting scenes.
I agree that there is a balancing point, and that larger ships some times cross that line. The struggle with modern productions (and modern science fiction) is the conception that more people and busier bridges make for more realistic scenes. Modern military bridges are hardly designed for intimate conversations, and science fiction has taken many cues from the modern military.
That said, I agree that the increased number of people can be overwhelming, but we still got some great in the turbolift intimate moments, which actually make more sense to have there, with more privacy.
It's a tough balancing act, to be sure.
Wordperfect always used to try to turn "Cardassian" into "courtesan"--which kind of changed the meaning!
That must create some interesting scenes.
This is what bothers me about large ships-
-my disbelief is already suspended, an unreasonably large ship stretches it even more. I don't mind there being big ships but they need to serve a big purpose like a transport ship or something.
-it kills drama and intimacy. The fact that the TOS Enterprise is the size it is out in such a big galaxy makes it seem more vulnerable and therefore much more interesting dramatically. The Galaxy Class feels like a giant cruise ship complete with little children running around and a bridge that feels like a lounge in a Holiday Inn (all that beige and wood!) Again completely ruining drama. Is this Star Trek or Love Boat in space?
Big ships require bigger crews and too many people ruin drama as well. The brain can only think about so many characters at once so you lose quality for the sake of quantity. The new Abrams bridge is too busy and has far too many people including two people standing right behind the Captain who look like they are taking reservations at a restaurant! That ruins opportunities for dramatic or intimate exchanges as well. All those great little moments between Kirk Spock and McCoy at the Captains chair are now lost because two strangers are standing right behind them (presumably still taking reservations) making it seem awkward because we KNOW they are standing there listening. How could they not?
So all of those great moments are lost so the bridge can look busier?
Clearly not well thought out.
For me, great cinema is about moments especially between main characters. That being said it should be the goal to create as many opportunities for such moments as possible. Giant ships and throngs of people DO NOT create good moments other than Gee-Whiz look at the size of that/all those people!
Those types of moments should be relegated to Disney Theme Parks, not great Science Fiction.
I agree that there is a balancing point, and that larger ships some times cross that line. The struggle with modern productions (and modern science fiction) is the conception that more people and busier bridges make for more realistic scenes. Modern military bridges are hardly designed for intimate conversations, and science fiction has taken many cues from the modern military.
That said, I agree that the increased number of people can be overwhelming, but we still got some great in the turbolift intimate moments, which actually make more sense to have there, with more privacy.
It's a tough balancing act, to be sure.
