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"Agent Carter" season one discussion and spoilers

No way to get it in the UK at the moment on iTunes, Amazon, DVD etc

Just have to wait it seems.

Great. I've got cable with hundreds of chanels, Netflix and PS+. Can I get Agent Carter or Powers ?

Is it any wonder people do dodgy downloads ?
 
I enjoyed season one very much, but I hope that we see real evolution of the story. I want Peggy to be more respected by her colleagues, for example, and not a reboot of the office sexism issue.

Good luck with that. The show is based in the mid-40's, even if they jump ahead two whole decades Women's Lib only just got started but the late 60's!

Basically what you're asking for is for them to remove one of the primary underlying themes and possibly *the* major hook for the series: a woman in a man's world, doing a "man's job".
It's not just expressed in how Peggy's co-workers deal with her, it's in society at large and it permeates every facet of the series from her waitress/struggling actor friend to even her nemesis in the form of Dotty (or whatever her real name is.)

It's like asking for more Iron Man but without all the funny quips and crazy gadgets.

I agree with all of that but within the confines of the agency, she should be taking on a more valuable role. She has proved herself at this point--there is no reason she can't get the same respect she gets from the Howling Commandos.
 
I agree with all of that but within the confines of the agency, she should be taking on a more valuable role. She has proved herself at this point--there is no reason she can't get the same respect she gets from the Howling Commandos.

It's safe to assume she's not going to be playing the role of "helpless secretary that secretly solves cases all on her own". We already know for a fact that there are numerous characters that are are well aware of her true ability. They won't magically forget.

Though Stark and Agent Thompson could easily still use her as a mole to see if she can uncover traitors in a suspicious spy office or something. And you can bet she'll still be underestimated by many unsuspecting males in the general populace.

We've already seen that she uses her lack of respect to her advantage in numerous situations, and I'd certainly want to see some more of that in Season 2.

But we also all know what's in store for her in the future: great success as one of the top people in Shield. And once we get to that point, there'll be little chance of moving backwards to have her play the unassuming agent who's always getting one over on her superiors. So we might as well try to get a little more of that fun dynamic in there while we still can.

It shouldn't be too hard to dig up some new SSR agents who will just assume that Peggy didn't do much, and that Agent Thompson was responsible for the Stark case and the victory over Leviathan and Ivchenko in season 1, and that she was just hanging around with Cap and/or the Howling Commandos, and not actually joining them as equals let alone leading them.


But that said, there absolutely should be (and I suspect will be) growth of respect for Peggy from all sides as the show progresses.
 
It's going to be odd seeing Jarvis again, now that I've seen do such a great job playing a slimeball in season 2 of Broadchurch. :lol:
 
I agree with all of that but within the confines of the agency, she should be taking on a more valuable role. She has proved herself at this point--there is no reason she can't get the same respect she gets from the Howling Commandos.

It's safe to assume she's not going to be playing the role of "helpless secretary that secretly solves cases all on her own". We already know for a fact that there are numerous characters that are are well aware of her true ability. They won't magically forget.

Though Stark and Agent Thompson could easily still use her as a mole to see if she can uncover traitors in a suspicious spy office or something. And you can bet she'll still be underestimated by many unsuspecting males in the general populace.

We've already seen that she uses her lack of respect to her advantage in numerous situations, and I'd certainly want to see some more of that in Season 2.

But we also all know what's in store for her in the future: great success as one of the top people in Shield. And once we get to that point, there'll be little chance of moving backwards to have her play the unassuming agent who's always getting one over on her superiors. So we might as well try to get a little more of that fun dynamic in there while we still can.

It shouldn't be too hard to dig up some new SSR agents who will just assume that Peggy didn't do much, and that Agent Thompson was responsible for the Stark case and the victory over Leviathan and Ivchenko in season 1, and that she was just hanging around with Cap and/or the Howling Commandos, and not actually joining them as equals let alone leading them.


But that said, there absolutely should be (and I suspect will be) growth of respect for Peggy from all sides as the show progresses.

The way I look at it is this: imagine for a moment that instead of being a retro 40's spy vs spy action-drama staring a woman, it is a show based in the early 1800's deep south USA and starred a black person. Now, no matter what our main character does--not even if they gain their freedom--even if they earn some measure or respect among some of the whites, the underlying prejudice in people will not simply evaporate as if it was never there, even in those they might call friend and it would be deeply dishonest to portray it otherwise. Society at large will remain unmoved by them for the time being.

Peggy is not going to single handedly eliminate sexism and the show should not attempt to pretend that she should be the exception. To borrow from my analogy (and I apologise in advance for using this term) but whatever else she might be to the SSR at this stage, she's still the nigger in this situation.
 
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Glad to hear it was renewed. A bit surprised to since I thought the ratings weren't stellar.
It was for sure a "Bubble Show". I saw articles where different authors cited their source as either 60% or 75% chance of pickup at various times the past month.

With the Bobbi/Hunter spinoff put on hold/not picked up, it may be that renewing this was the compromise slot and if this fails to see a ratings uptick that the Mockingbird show could resurface next year as a spinoff candidate once again.
 
Keep in mind that Agent Carter was never meant to be a full-time show. It was just a gap-filler. And for a gap-filler, it's ratings were more than adequate. I'm sure you could go down the list of temporary replacement shows and find a few that got better ratings than Agent Carter, but I'm also certain that ABC could do a lot worse than the ratings Agent Carter got.

For what it is, it was good enough.
 
I agree with all of that but within the confines of the agency, she should be taking on a more valuable role. She has proved herself at this point--there is no reason she can't get the same respect she gets from the Howling Commandos.

It's safe to assume she's not going to be playing the role of "helpless secretary that secretly solves cases all on her own". We already know for a fact that there are numerous characters that are are well aware of her true ability. They won't magically forget.

Though Stark and Agent Thompson could easily still use her as a mole to see if she can uncover traitors in a suspicious spy office or something. And you can bet she'll still be underestimated by many unsuspecting males in the general populace.

We've already seen that she uses her lack of respect to her advantage in numerous situations, and I'd certainly want to see some more of that in Season 2.

But we also all know what's in store for her in the future: great success as one of the top people in Shield. And once we get to that point, there'll be little chance of moving backwards to have her play the unassuming agent who's always getting one over on her superiors. So we might as well try to get a little more of that fun dynamic in there while we still can.

It shouldn't be too hard to dig up some new SSR agents who will just assume that Peggy didn't do much, and that Agent Thompson was responsible for the Stark case and the victory over Leviathan and Ivchenko in season 1, and that she was just hanging around with Cap and/or the Howling Commandos, and not actually joining them as equals let alone leading them.


But that said, there absolutely should be (and I suspect will be) growth of respect for Peggy from all sides as the show progresses.

The way I look at it is this: imagine for a moment that instead of being a retro 40's spy vs spy action-drama staring a woman, it is a show based in the early 1800's deep south USA and starred a black person. Now, no matter what our main character does--not even if they gain their freedom--even if they earn some measure or respect among some of the whites, the underlying prejudice in people will not simply evaporate as if it was never there, even in those they might call friend and it would be deeply dishonest to portray it otherwise. Society at large will remain unmoved by them for the time being.

Peggy is not going to single handedly eliminate sexism and the show should not attempt to pretend that she should be the exception. To borrow from my analogy (and I apologise in advance for using this term) but whatever else she might be to the SSR at this stage, she's still the nigger in this situation.


You know, there really is no reason whatsoever to use that word. Your "apology" doesn't make it acceptable. Why couldn't you say "low man on the totem pole, still a servant, on the bottom rung" or any other phrase that would have been just as sufficient without resorting to hateful, offensive, racist terms?

You even went back and edited your post but STILL left it in. What the hell?
 
Peggy is not going to single handedly eliminate sexism and the show should not attempt to pretend that she should be the exception. To borrow from my analogy (and I apologise in advance for using this term) but whatever else she might be to the SSR at this stage, she's still the nigger in this situation.

Infraction for using the derogatory, "n-word". Comments to PM
 
Agent Carter - Season 2 - Synopsis

http://www.spoilertv.com/2015/05/agents-of-shield-agent-carter-next.html

Dedicated to the fight against new atomic age threats in the wake of World War II, Peggy must now journey from New York City to Los Angeles for her most dangerous assignment yet. But even as she discovers new friends, a new home -- and perhaps even a new love -- she's about to find out that the bright lights of the post-war Hollywood mask a more sinister threat to everyone she is sworn to protect.
 
^ yea, they basically had a similar story and that synopsis over at EW a few minutes ago. I hope, at least, Jarvis goes with her.

Q2
 
A change of location for S2 to Los Angeles will give the season a whole new look and feel.
Lots of sun, beaches, boardwalks and the surrounding hills vs the alleys, docks, warehouses and prominent night shoots. Oh, I suspect she'll still do some spying at night in LA, it'll just feel different all the same. I do wish it stated when this picks up from S1, 2 weeks later, 6months later or more!
 
Agent Carter in 1940s LA? Hell yeah! That will be a fun location for the show and the era was right about the time Las Vegas was really starting up so they can visit there too.

Jarvis has to be back though and I suspect Angie will be too since her character is supposed to be an aspiring actress.
 
Angie makes sense, and obviously Howard Stark knows half the single women in Hollywood, so he could be back, along with Jarvis. We'll have to see about Agents Thompson and Sousa.

It will probably depend on which actors are available though. Since this isn't a full-time show, they'll have to see who's doing other stuff, and who can fit into their shooting schedule. That's probably why they didn't mention a cast list.
 
I hope they don't use the relocation as an excuse to hit the reset button on her progress at gaining respect amongst her male colleagues in the SSR.
 
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