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The folks at Axanar released their first BTS production log.

http://www.startrekaxanar.com/captains-log-april-25-2015/

It's a very ambitious project and I definitely got the impression that they've really underestimated the cost of the production. It looks like it's going to run into the millions to get a full length film done and up to par with the Prelude quality, so I hope they have other funding besides crowd funding. I would be surprised if crowd funding alone is going to cut it. Other than that, the production looks and sounds amazing.
 
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According to Alec the production budget is targeted at $ 800,000. So not sure where you get this "Millions" figure. The mere fact that Alec tells everyone what things actually cost is beyond anything any other production, or even Kickstarter, does. Axanar has a weekly podcast, a daily journal from Alec and now video logs. What other production does even ONE of those? Oh, and they published the budget from "Prelude to Axanar" and accounted for every dollar.
 
That's great that he has it budgeted at 800k, but at 4:15 he also says that he's handing it over to someone who will break it down, budget it , schedule it and come back with the actual costs. That would be impressive if the actual costs manage to fall within that estimate.
 
You seem to be well informed on the project Red Omega. Has there been any talk about a release date? Or is it still too soon to be thinking about something like that?
 
Both New Voyages and STC have roughly 11,000sf facilities, each with a full set of TOS sets, and The Oklahoma group has a bridge (formerly from Exeter).

Officially, our New Voyages/Phase II newly-acquired studio space comes in at 13,000 square feet. As wonderful as 13,000 square feet is, I'm sure that Area Studio's 16,000 square feet is impressive and will enable some fine productions.


STC's facility is 18,000 square feet and 2.5 stories high.
 
... The mere fact that Alec tells everyone what things actually cost is beyond anything any other production, or even Kickstarter, does...

If he tells people what it actually costs how will he keep his reputation as a miracle worker? :rommie:
 
Both New Voyages and STC have roughly 11,000sf facilities, each with a full set of TOS sets, and The Oklahoma group has a bridge (formerly from Exeter).

Officially, our New Voyages/Phase II newly-acquired studio space comes in at 13,000 square feet. As wonderful as 13,000 square feet is, I'm sure that Area Studio's 16,000 square feet is impressive and will enable some fine productions.


STC's facility is 18,000 square feet and 2.5 stories high.

Not even close. STC's facility is 9,600 square feet according every published source as well as John Broughton.

http://jacksonville.com/news/georgi...-farraguts-kingsland-set-open-public-saturday

http://jacksonville.com/entertainment/movies/2014-12-04/story/star-trek-studio-georgia-open-festival-weekend



And Star Trek: New Voyages facility is 100' x 110' making it 11,000sf. (That is straight from the guy who rented it).
 
Officially, our New Voyages/Phase II newly-acquired studio space comes in at 13,000 square feet. As wonderful as 13,000 square feet is, I'm sure that Area Studio's 16,000 square feet is impressive and will enable some fine productions.


STC's facility is 18,000 square feet and 2.5 stories high.

Not even close. STC's facility is 9,600 square feet according every published source as well as John Broughton.

http://jacksonville.com/news/georgi...-farraguts-kingsland-set-open-public-saturday

http://jacksonville.com/entertainment/movies/2014-12-04/story/star-trek-studio-georgia-open-festival-weekend



And Star Trek: New Voyages facility is 100' x 110' making it 11,000sf. (That is straight from the guy who rented it).

So, size matters?

I hope this doesn't turn into a "mine's bigger" thing. ;)
 
And Star Trek: New Voyages facility is 100' x 110' making it 11,000sf. (That is straight from the guy who rented it).

Our fearless leader James Cawley had this to say back on July 14th of last year:

"Our Phase II sets are in a new 13,000 square foot facility in Ticonderoga, N.Y. 12883 and are quite literally the most complete and accurate recreation and will be open to the public soon. We have gone way above what any other fan film studio has built in both quantity and accuracy. Our new facility is also both heated and air conditioned for more shooting options throughout the year."

James' TrekBBS post is here:

http://www.trekbbs.com/showpost.php?p=9839293&postcount=8


And a similar post from a different website from a bit earlier--in May:

http://www.sliceofscifi.com/2014/05/14/star-trek-phase-ii-builds-new-studio/

It occurs to me that with STC and Farragut going their separate ways, STC might have been able to pick up the studio space that had been allocated to Farragut. The old 9,600 square feet figure from a few years ago might be old/obsolete data by now. In fact here's a comment from STC's Facebook page from a few weeks ago:

"Star Trek Continues is pleased to announce the christening of STAGE 9, our 18,000 square foot studio in Georgia! It is named after Stage 9 & 10 at Desilu, where TOS was born!"

N.B. Anal-retentive folks like me know that Star Trek was actually "born" over at the Desilu-Culver Studio on Stage 15--not at Desilu-Gower Stage 9.
 
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I have absolutely no idea of the square footage, but STC/Farragut facility was one half of a divided warehouse building. STC now has the other half as well, so that might be why one estimate was double of someone else's. Mind you, the "other side" will retain subdivided areas for use as wardrobe, makeup, and catering....so how much can be counted as "set space" is debatable. Still, Engineering is being built on "the other side", and an open area for "planet hell" uses has been cleared as well.
 
I have absolutely no idea of the square footage, but STC/Farragut facility was one half of a divided warehouse building. STC now has the other half as well, so that might be why one estimate was double of someone else's. Mind you, the "other side" will retain subdivided areas for use as wardrobe, makeup, and catering....so how much can be counted as "set space" is debatable. Still, Engineering is being built on "the other side", and an open area for "planet hell" uses has been cleared as well.

Thanks, Treadwell. Red Omega's STC information is probably just obsolete and doesn't cite the newer studio acquisition figures.
 
Ah! New info on STC space. Good news for them. Will be interesting to see photos of the new space and what they do with it (engineering I heard, for one).

And that is why these sets tend to be built in more remote cities, where the real estate prices are low. (and why having a multi-millionaire benefactor is always a good move).

As to New Voyages, the new building is, 100' x 110' according to their landlord. This was posted when Alec Peters first found the building was available (When he was working as a producer for NV). I think James number of 13,000sf may have been motivated by competition with STC more than anything else. :-) However, maybe they too expanded on what was originally rented.

Ultimately, each set of sets is different, and I definitely bow to Mr. Cawley who has the most accurate of sets. His attention to detail is insane. Just look at his Facebook posts! In his daily journal, Alec even said that he sent his construction guy to NY to measure everything in James sets. I think that is the highest praise right there and very gracious of James to share that info.
 
I can for sure see Maurice's pov about not caring about studio size. Does wood or paint, carpet or a plastic button make an epsiode? Gosh no. The story makes or breaks an epsiode. We are excited of the ability to show a meaningful story within the new sets.
I brought up the studio dimensions because misinformation was being presented about our facility. Having been with STC from day 1, I can tell you the facts with no hyperbole. Thanks and have a good afternoon.
 
Well I know that I, for one, was dangerously close to judging the respective productions by the relative quantity of their square footage. There's something about the siren song of a measuring tape that just... just gets me, you know? So I'm definitely glad we cleared up that point, dodged a bullet there for sure. ;)
 
Perhaps if some fan films weren't so... lacking in other areas, this wouldn't be such a sensitive issue for me. Sound in particular seems to be a challenge for most fan films. I guess what I'm saying is I'd prefer a movie I can hear and understand vs. one with perfectly recreated sets.
 
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