Donny's TOS Enterprise Interiors
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Dang! I've been working exclusively from the Blu-Ray transfers, as I prefer the bluer tint. But upon inspection of the funeral scene...it look as if they also DIMMED the scene as well. Wow...Thanks for showing me these comparisons.
^Awesome find, Nightowl!!
Yeah, here's a comparison with the brighter Director's Edition DVD release:
Crew inspection at Kirk's arrival:Lineup at Spock's funeral:Wow, that's blue.
Dang! I've been working exclusively from the Blu-Ray transfers, as I prefer the bluer tint. But upon inspection of the funeral scene...it look as if they also DIMMED the scene as well. Wow...Thanks for showing me these comparisons.
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I never realized Klingon commanders needed so much shock absorbing!
I never realized Klingon commanders needed so much shock absorbing!
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The Blu-ray scenes don't look as bad now that I'm home on my laptop; earlier I was on my work computer, and on that monitor, the funeral scene looked dark almost to the point of murkiness. But I agree, it definitely looks like they dimmed the scene when they remastered the film for Blu-ray.
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I just reviewed the images that I commented on with my home PC rather than my Mac at work (where I first saw them). The images on my home PC are much brighter. On my Mac, it looks like a very dark room.
Still, the comparison images do bring up a good point. The set was certainly much brighter at the beginning of the movie than at the end and the Blu-Ray is certainly darker in both.
Again, this doesn't take away from the incredible work you are doing!
I just reviewed the images that I commented on with my home PC rather than my Mac at work (where I first saw them). The images on my home PC are much brighter. On my Mac, it looks like a very dark room.
Still, the comparison images do bring up a good point. The set was certainly much brighter at the beginning of the movie than at the end and the Blu-Ray is certainly darker in both.
Again, this doesn't take away from the incredible work you are doing!
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I think some of the darkness is due to the more bluish color of the remastered HD film, and since Donny's been using the Blu-ray screencaps as a big part of his source material, for consistency's sake it makes sense that the renders will reflect that.
As far as the two scenes go, the brightness seems to be more consistent in both scenes on the DVD, while the Blu-ray version is significantly dimmer in the latter scene.
I think some of the darkness is due to the more bluish color of the remastered HD film, and since Donny's been using the Blu-ray screencaps as a big part of his source material, for consistency's sake it makes sense that the renders will reflect that.
As far as the two scenes go, the brightness seems to be more consistent in both scenes on the DVD, while the Blu-ray version is significantly dimmer in the latter scene.
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More work done today. Floor pattern has been etched out and the circular pit is in place. Pull-up grating panels over the torpedo track are complete (still have to add their number decals though). Now to build the torpedo track itself...
More work done today. Floor pattern has been etched out and the circular pit is in place. Pull-up grating panels over the torpedo track are complete (still have to add their number decals though). Now to build the torpedo track itself...
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Whoa! I wonder what the rationale for that is. Cool to see, though.
Whoa! I wonder what the rationale for that is. Cool to see, though.
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Looking at this, I'm reminded of Hal Michaelson's intent to the make the TMP Transporter Room appear as if you were "inside the machine" or words to that effect. If that's the case, then the Torpedo Bay set is very much "inside the machinery" and these renders show that off very well indeed.
Bring on some more!
Looking at this, I'm reminded of Hal Michaelson's intent to the make the TMP Transporter Room appear as if you were "inside the machine" or words to that effect. If that's the case, then the Torpedo Bay set is very much "inside the machinery" and these renders show that off very well indeed.
Bring on some more!
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I love how you have the subtle little curves at surface joints instead of hard angles (like what's down in the circular part of the pit and wall corners). It's so small and insignificant in the grand scheme of things, but details like that really add to the illusion of real-space objects. Gorgeous work as usual, Donny!
I love how you have the subtle little curves at surface joints instead of hard angles (like what's down in the circular part of the pit and wall corners). It's so small and insignificant in the grand scheme of things, but details like that really add to the illusion of real-space objects. Gorgeous work as usual, Donny!
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I always find when I'm cracking out renders that that's the secret. Razor sharp hard edges pretty much don't exist in the real world so putting a tiny chamfer on them makes things look far more realistic. It's one of those things you wouldn't be able to put you're finder on in a picture, but makes things look obviously CG.
I love how you have the subtle little curves at surface joints instead of hard angles (like what's down in the circular part of the pit and wall corners). It's so small and insignificant in the grand scheme of things, but details like that really add to the illusion of real-space objects. Gorgeous work as usual, Donny!
I always find when I'm cracking out renders that that's the secret. Razor sharp hard edges pretty much don't exist in the real world so putting a tiny chamfer on them makes things look far more realistic. It's one of those things you wouldn't be able to put you're finder on in a picture, but makes things look obviously CG.
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By the way, back in November I asked Rick Sternbach via Facebook about the bridge ceiling dome. Here is his response:
We briefly interrupt this torpedo bay construction to bring you a rare TMP production shot with the first V'Ger probe, which reveals a surprising bridge detail up top...
(Credit goes to Gustavo Leo and the TMP Appreciation Society on Facebook.)
By the way, back in November I asked Rick Sternbach via Facebook about the bridge ceiling dome. Here is his response:
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Oh, cool, now that I knew what to look for, it became much more obvious:
http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/tmp2/tmphd0704.jpg
I'm curious what the function of such a display was supposed to be. Based on the behind-the-scenes description Rick Sternbach gave you, it kind of reminds me of those dashboard compasses.
Oh, cool, now that I knew what to look for, it became much more obvious:
http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/tmp2/tmphd0704.jpg
I'm curious what the function of such a display was supposed to be. Based on the behind-the-scenes description Rick Sternbach gave you, it kind of reminds me of those dashboard compasses.
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IIRC, in the wormhole scene, it was bouncing around rather severely. Makes me think the whole bridge set was on some kind of gimbal so that the bridge crew didn't have to "act" like they were shaking, when they really were. I, too, got the impression it was some kind of directional indicator like a compass, which never made much sense to me in an outer-space environment in a vessel that was supposed to have inertial dampeners. Neat effect visually, though.
IIRC, in the wormhole scene, it was bouncing around rather severely. Makes me think the whole bridge set was on some kind of gimbal so that the bridge crew didn't have to "act" like they were shaking, when they really were. I, too, got the impression it was some kind of directional indicator like a compass, which never made much sense to me in an outer-space environment in a vessel that was supposed to have inertial dampeners. Neat effect visually, though.
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I've never seen any mention of the bridge set being put on a gimbal. I think the realistic-looking shaking was due to the weeks and weeks of effort and reshoots that Bob Wise and the crew put into the scene.
I've never seen any mention of the bridge set being put on a gimbal. I think the realistic-looking shaking was due to the weeks and weeks of effort and reshoots that Bob Wise and the crew put into the scene.
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I've never seen that mentioned, either. The first reference I can recall to any major Trek set being mounted on a gimbal (apart from maybe a shuttle/runabout cockpit) is the Enterprise-E bridge in Nemesis.
I've never seen that mentioned, either. The first reference I can recall to any major Trek set being mounted on a gimbal (apart from maybe a shuttle/runabout cockpit) is the Enterprise-E bridge in Nemesis.
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I wanna say it was the E-B in Generations. I say that because I saw Shatner at a convention after the filming of Generations but before it's release and I recall he was talking about it. Also, he forgot to grow out his sideburns for the movie, so the in the E-B stuff, he's wearing a costume mustache clipped in two and glued to his face. But he later grew out his own for the rest of the movie. Also some random lady in the audience asked to come up on stage and kiss him, and he allowed it. Those are my memories from that convention.
--Alex
I wanna say it was the E-B in Generations. I say that because I saw Shatner at a convention after the filming of Generations but before it's release and I recall he was talking about it. Also, he forgot to grow out his sideburns for the movie, so the in the E-B stuff, he's wearing a costume mustache clipped in two and glued to his face. But he later grew out his own for the rest of the movie. Also some random lady in the audience asked to come up on stage and kiss him, and he allowed it. Those are my memories from that convention.
--Alex
