Any Comic Book Fans Here That Are Annoyed By Comic Movie Only Fans?
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Bingo.
Look, any time some formerly niche item--be it comic book superheroes or an obscure indie band or a cult movie or whatever--goes mainstream, the earliest fans are prone to getting all territorial and possessive. How dare "they" enjoy something that used to just belong to "us"?
But that sorta attitude, while understandable, isn't very helpful or productive. We need to share our toys and not look down on those who are merely new to the party.
We should be happy that the rest of the world is finally getting around to appreciating what we've enjoyed for years, not getting all pissy and superior because we were here first. There is no seniority system when it comes to enjoying superheros and comic-book adventures. Long-time fans don't outrank newbies.
I mean, God forbid that somebody should enjoy, say, Guardians of the Galaxy as a movie without having read the original comics first. We can't have that!
Bingo.
Look, any time some formerly niche item--be it comic book superheroes or an obscure indie band or a cult movie or whatever--goes mainstream, the earliest fans are prone to getting all territorial and possessive. How dare "they" enjoy something that used to just belong to "us"?
But that sorta attitude, while understandable, isn't very helpful or productive. We need to share our toys and not look down on those who are merely new to the party.
We should be happy that the rest of the world is finally getting around to appreciating what we've enjoyed for years, not getting all pissy and superior because we were here first. There is no seniority system when it comes to enjoying superheros and comic-book adventures. Long-time fans don't outrank newbies.
I mean, God forbid that somebody should enjoy, say, Guardians of the Galaxy as a movie without having read the original comics first. We can't have that!
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Nah, I'm more annoyed by my fellow "fans" who seem to think we're the beginning and end of the universe and what we think is the only thing that matters. I'm almost sick of seeing the reflex backlash every time they change something from comic to film. All the whining has become cliche.
Nah, I'm more annoyed by my fellow "fans" who seem to think we're the beginning and end of the universe and what we think is the only thing that matters. I'm almost sick of seeing the reflex backlash every time they change something from comic to film. All the whining has become cliche.
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I'm more concerned that people know who Stan Lee is and aren't aware of his various intellectual crimes and lies against creators like Jack Kirby (RIP) and Steve Ditko and hold him up on some sort of pedestal as the creative genius that gave birth to the Marvel Universe.
I'm more concerned that people know who Stan Lee is and aren't aware of his various intellectual crimes and lies against creators like Jack Kirby (RIP) and Steve Ditko and hold him up on some sort of pedestal as the creative genius that gave birth to the Marvel Universe.
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Exactly. Most movie fans aren't aware of this. They love Stan Lee now but do not know the rest of the story. I say they are idiots.
Exactly. Most movie fans aren't aware of this. They love Stan Lee now but do not know the rest of the story. I say they are idiots.
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Pubert, I can see you having a legitimate point about conventions originally conceived for the celebration of comics and their fans as being overrun on both the organizers' and participants' sides by those indifferent to comics. If I took a vacation to go to, say, the San Diego Comic-Con to see a particular comic artist speak, only to be overwhelmed by huge crowds salivating over the prospect of seeing a video teaser a few hours before the rest of the world, I might be annoyed too, especially if they were obnoxious during the actual panels. In which case, the obvious (though not necessarily economically or strategically realistic) fix would be to make a separate TV/Movie Con from that of the comics.
But, as many others have eloquently and justly argued, there's nothing false or blameworthy about geeks and even non-geeks enjoying comic TV and movie adaptations, particularly given the hermetic and forbidding state of comics today.
Pubert, I can see you having a legitimate point about conventions originally conceived for the celebration of comics and their fans as being overrun on both the organizers' and participants' sides by those indifferent to comics. If I took a vacation to go to, say, the San Diego Comic-Con to see a particular comic artist speak, only to be overwhelmed by huge crowds salivating over the prospect of seeing a video teaser a few hours before the rest of the world, I might be annoyed too, especially if they were obnoxious during the actual panels. In which case, the obvious (though not necessarily economically or strategically realistic) fix would be to make a separate TV/Movie Con from that of the comics.
But, as many others have eloquently and justly argued, there's nothing false or blameworthy about geeks and even non-geeks enjoying comic TV and movie adaptations, particularly given the hermetic and forbidding state of comics today.
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When I was a kid and in the decades before, comic shops didn't exist (or were barely starting to), and most people bought them relatively cheaply at grocery stores and drug stores. Back then, they were seen as primarily a kids' thing, but they got wider exposure amongst those kids.
That kind of gimmick has been going on since at least the early 90s when they killed Superman (and later changed him to Electro-Supes). That was the era when the comics industry started catering exclusively to collectors, which led directly to where things are at today, from what I've read.
When I was a kid and in the decades before, comic shops didn't exist (or were barely starting to), and most people bought them relatively cheaply at grocery stores and drug stores. Back then, they were seen as primarily a kids' thing, but they got wider exposure amongst those kids.
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Exactly.
It's perhaps worth remembering that comic-book heroes were never intended to be the exclusive property of hardcore fans and collectors. Comics started out as a mass-market phenomenon: cheap, disposable ten-cent periodicals aimed at kids of all ages. They weren't supposed to be some specialized, cliquey thing appreciated only by the true aficionados.
So what if some people just enjoy the movies? Where's the harm in that? Doesn't make them "idiots" or whatever. You shouldn't have to prove your fan cred to enjoy a Spider-Man movie.
As fans, we need to get over the idea that we're the only audience that matters. Superheros don't just belong to us--and they never did.
Exactly.
It's perhaps worth remembering that comic-book heroes were never intended to be the exclusive property of hardcore fans and collectors. Comics started out as a mass-market phenomenon: cheap, disposable ten-cent periodicals aimed at kids of all ages. They weren't supposed to be some specialized, cliquey thing appreciated only by the true aficionados.
So what if some people just enjoy the movies? Where's the harm in that? Doesn't make them "idiots" or whatever. You shouldn't have to prove your fan cred to enjoy a Spider-Man movie.
As fans, we need to get over the idea that we're the only audience that matters. Superheros don't just belong to us--and they never did.
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It's a little different for me. I'm a DC collector/fanboy to the core. I have every issue of Superman and Batman, which includes Tec, Shadow of the Bat, Adventures, etc. etc. I've never read a Marvel comic in my life. Just never had any interest but i love the Marvel films, especially the Avengers stuff. For me, it just seems impossible to jump into the Marvel comics, because some big event is always happening. I'm hoping with this Secret Wars, maybe it'll cause a new clean slate after, but i'm sure it'll just lead into the next big event. I miss the days of the 80s/90s when you could pick up a single issue of a comic and get a whole story out of it. It wasn't part XX of 10, to then be put into a trade.
It's a little different for me. I'm a DC collector/fanboy to the core. I have every issue of Superman and Batman, which includes Tec, Shadow of the Bat, Adventures, etc. etc. I've never read a Marvel comic in my life. Just never had any interest but i love the Marvel films, especially the Avengers stuff. For me, it just seems impossible to jump into the Marvel comics, because some big event is always happening. I'm hoping with this Secret Wars, maybe it'll cause a new clean slate after, but i'm sure it'll just lead into the next big event. I miss the days of the 80s/90s when you could pick up a single issue of a comic and get a whole story out of it. It wasn't part XX of 10, to then be put into a trade.
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I'm mostly Film/TV with some interest in comics, I've read a few Batman TPB's and a fair amount of Star Wars, I just find myself watching and reading novels more then comics, but when I get around to it do enjoy comics.
I used to read comics as a kid with the Transformers G1 in the 80's, especially City of Fear which is still vivid (hunted that down on ebay a few years ago, still a good read to this day)
I'm mostly Film/TV with some interest in comics, I've read a few Batman TPB's and a fair amount of Star Wars, I just find myself watching and reading novels more then comics, but when I get around to it do enjoy comics.
I used to read comics as a kid with the Transformers G1 in the 80's, especially City of Fear which is still vivid (hunted that down on ebay a few years ago, still a good read to this day)
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I think there's probably some comic fans that are in that same category.
I think there's probably some comic fans that are in that same category.
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More like "more-fannish-than-thou" . . .which does not exactly welcome new fans into the fold.
More like "more-fannish-than-thou" . . .which does not exactly welcome new fans into the fold.
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Only when the holier than though comic movie fans try and flaunt their supposed expert knowledge of comic characters without ever having read the source material.
Only when the holier than though comic movie fans try and flaunt their supposed expert knowledge of comic characters without ever having read the source material.
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I think you're misreading that. We're not talking about the newbies. We're talking about long-time fans looking down at clueless newcomers just because they can't quote chapter and verse on the original comics.
So what if some self-declared IRON MAN fan is more familiar with the movies than the comics? How does that matter? Some of us got into this stuff through the comics; some people are more into the movies these days.
It's no big deal. As long as people are having fun, what difference does it make?
I think you're misreading that. We're not talking about the newbies. We're talking about long-time fans looking down at clueless newcomers just because they can't quote chapter and verse on the original comics.
So what if some self-declared IRON MAN fan is more familiar with the movies than the comics? How does that matter? Some of us got into this stuff through the comics; some people are more into the movies these days.
It's no big deal. As long as people are having fun, what difference does it make?
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Im talking about the newbies which is why I started the thread.
Im talking about the newbies which is why I started the thread.
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True, but the "more-fannish-than-thou" bit was directed at the tendency of some veteran fans to act like the newbies are crashing our clubhouse without paying their dues or whatever.
Ultimately, we're just talking entertainment here. Nobody is being graded on their knowledge of comic-book lore. None of this will be on the exam.
People want to think they're IRON MAN fans without knowing all about the comics? Okay, why not? Where's the harm?
True, but the "more-fannish-than-thou" bit was directed at the tendency of some veteran fans to act like the newbies are crashing our clubhouse without paying their dues or whatever.
Ultimately, we're just talking entertainment here. Nobody is being graded on their knowledge of comic-book lore. None of this will be on the exam.
People want to think they're IRON MAN fans without knowing all about the comics? Okay, why not? Where's the harm?
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There is no harm. Its just real annoying.
True, but the "more-fannish-than-thou" bit was directed at the tendency of some veteran fans to act like the newbies are crashing our clubhouse without paying their dues or whatever.
Ultimately, we're just talking entertainment here. Nobody is being graded on their knowledge of comic-book lore. None of this will be on the exam.
People want to think they're IRON MAN fans without knowing all about the comics? Okay, why not? Where's the harm?
There is no harm. Its just real annoying.
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