The "I started a very long time ago" line from TDOTD could be proof of this.
All the incarnations were involved in stopping the war, so why not involved in the rest of the war?
Your favourite pet theories of your own
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The "I started a very long time ago" line from TDOTD could be proof of this.
All the incarnations were involved in stopping the war, so why not involved in the rest of the war?
Yeah, they never clearly explained exactly how the Silence destroyed the TARDIS in "The Pandorica Opens." Your theory is one of the easiest to accept. Although, if she was psychologically conditioned to destroy the TARDIS, why not destroy it earlier? Why didn't she destroy the TARDIS the instant the Doctor first brought her aboard in "Lets Kill Hitler"? And why not destroy it when the Doctor was on board? And if the Doctor wasn't on board, why destroy it at all? Why not instruct her to steal the TARDIS and take it to a secure location?
Or was destroying the TARDIS plan C? Plan A was for River to kiss him with the poison lipstick ("Lets Kill Hitler"). Plan B was for her to shoot him at Lake Silencio ("The Impossible Astronaut"/"The Wedding of River Song"). And while the majority of the universe believed that the Doctor had in fact been killed, River was one of the few people that knew that he hadn't. Unfortunately, River divulged this secret when the Silence brought her in for debriefing after the fact. That's when they then instructed her with plan C to destroy the TARDIS at her next earliest convenience.
But then, the Silence should have known that the Lake Silencio plan could never work. After all, how could they possibly know that the Doctor was even going to be there? Granted, nearly everyone seemed to know that but only because it was common knowledge that that was where River killed the Doctor. They only knew where to go to kill him because they were told that that's where they killed him. (Just as the Doctor only knew to go there because he knew that that's where he needed to go in order to be killed.) But since that was a fixed point in time, it means that it obviously couldn't have worked because the Doctor clearly survived to later reach Trenzalore in "The Time of the Doctor," which was what started the whole thing in the first place.
As for the destroying the TARDIS plan, did the Madam Kovarian sect of the Silence know that that would destroy the universe? Were they so extreme that they would rather destroy the universe than allow the Time Lords to return & the Time War to restart? Or did they & River simply not understand the workings of the TARDIS as well as they thought?
Alternatively, there could have been a Silent in the TARDIS with River at the time and she would never have known it. That might be the simpler explanation. (IIRC, someone suggested that there's a moment in "The Lodger" where Amy is in the TARDIS and she seems to scream at nothing. Perhaps she saw a Silent in the TARDIS that we couldn't see.)
This is pretty much my theory too. Patient Zero follows Chase, after the failed attempt the Daleks realise time's a little more resiliant than they originally thought and start being a bit more devious than just "go back and kill this guy who's causing us all this hassle"
Not "scream", but react to something off-camera. It's tenuous; she's just been told she could fall into the time vortex and be lost forever, so I'm sure that was the intent, but if it works... There's also the shot from "The Eleventh Hour" that works very well with this theory.
The "Eleventh Hour" shot only works if the Silent is climbing on the wall or the ceiling. But some episodes have confirmed that they can do that, so I guess it works.
But the bit from "The Lodger" is the best one. While Amy does have reason to be concerned during that conversation with the Doctor, the timing of her reactions seems a bit off from what the Doctor says when. It seems like she is, at the moment, slightly distracted from the horrible stuff that the Doctor is saying by something else just off screen.
Another theory that I have about the end of Season 5: When the Doctor passed through the crack to seal it up, he got trapped on the other side and he's still there. The Doctor that we've seen since then is a super-accurate copy generated from Amy's memories. (I think they should do a story some time where the previous, abandoned Doctor comes back seeking revenge. Could be cool seeing Matt Smith as the bad guy.)
And while we did finally get an explanation for the Silence, I still prefer my original pet theory that manipulating the TARDIS into destroying the universe was masterminded by Omega. After all, he would certainly have the expert know-how to manipulate a TARDIS that way and he has a well established grudge against the material universe, having spent an eternity isolated in a world of anti-matter.
Speaking of theories that I like but have since been contradicted:
I like that theory and I was on board with it up until the Virgin New Adventures novel "Timewyrm: Exodus." In that story, the War Chief comes back and he certainly is not the Master. And it's gotta be canon because it was written by Terrance Dicks.
And, for my money, anything that Terrance Dicks writes about Doctor Who has gotta be true. (Heck, he's the one that officially canonized Season 6B in the novels "Players" & "World Game.")
And while we did finally get an explanation for the Silence, I still prefer my original pet theory that manipulating the TARDIS into destroying the universe was masterminded by Omega. After all, he would certainly have the expert know-how to manipulate a TARDIS that way and he has a well established grudge against the material universe, having spent an eternity isolated in a world of anti-matter.
Speaking of theories that I like but have since been contradicted:
I like that theory and I was on board with it up until the Virgin New Adventures novel "Timewyrm: Exodus." In that story, the War Chief comes back and he certainly is not the Master. And it's gotta be canon because it was written by Terrance Dicks.
And, for my money, anything that Terrance Dicks writes about Doctor Who has gotta be true. (Heck, he's the one that officially canonized Season 6B in the novels "Players" & "World Game.")
Exactly.
It's creepy. I'm fascinated by the concept of the unreliable memory, and the idea of your memory being used against you, that's why "Clues" is one of my favourite episodes of TNG; I find this sort of thing utterly chilling. Watching the compilation I linked to above (or one very like it) for the first time sent a chill down my spine in a way no episode itself has never managed to.
I don't care. The War Chief and the Master are the same person to me, too.I like that theory and I was on board with it up until the Virgin New Adventures novel "Timewyrm: Exodus." In that story, the War Chief comes back and he certainly is not the Master. And it's gotta be canon because it was written by Terrance Dicks.
Its just so much more fun that way. Besides, Terrance Dicks isn't infallible... Remember The Five Doctors?
* shudders *Remember The Five Doctors?
The Five Doctors is so, so, so weak. Its not bad, but it is hardly a great story. Really, its a fairly dissapointing serial by today's standards.
I mean, come on - Susan's around, and none of the Doctors ask whats she been up to? Please.
I mean, come on - Susan's around, and none of the Doctors ask whats she been up to? Please.
It's not a great story but we get to see Troughton, Pertwee and Davison share screen time. If only Tom hadn't been an arse about it all.
Yeah, they share the screen... and thats about it. The rest of it is a meandering mess that just barely makes sense - barely, because really, a lot of it doesn't.
Terrance Dicks is a good writer, and can write rolicking adventures for any individual Doctor... but he can't write character interactions. And for a multi-Doctor story, that was to feature so many companions, you gotta have something meaningful there.
So yeah, count me in the "The Five Doctors is overrated" camp.
Then, I didn't grow up watching Doctor Who, so hey.
Terrance Dicks is a good writer, and can write rolicking adventures for any individual Doctor... but he can't write character interactions. And for a multi-Doctor story, that was to feature so many companions, you gotta have something meaningful there.
So yeah, count me in the "The Five Doctors is overrated" camp.
Then, I didn't grow up watching Doctor Who, so hey.
That's a minority view.
'TFD' is a great anniversary runaround, but '...Androzani' is proper Who at its best.
Canton Everett Delaware is a future regeneration of River Song.
("Canton" = song; "Delaware" = river, i.e. Delaware River)
("Canton" = song; "Delaware" = river, i.e. Delaware River)
Mine is that Amy and Rory (in there early 60s) pick up a newly regenerated Melody Pond in New York in 1970 and raise her until they die around 1990, sending her off to England specifically for her to find then as children. Mels might know full well who they were, or perhaps not. This way, after a fashion, Amy does get to raise her baby. Mels did say she regenerated into a toddler in New York. The other possibility is that she regenerated again around 1990 in New York before being sent to whatever family took her in in Leadworth.
That's a minority view.
I know its a minority view, The Caves of Androzani is very popular. I like both stories, but I liked TFD better. The Doctors were all great (well, the ones that actually showed up) and the story was entertaining. The Caves of Androzani is a good story, don't get me wrong, but there are classic Who stories I like a lot more.
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Re: Your favourite pet theories of your own
K9 isn't really tin.
OH! Seriously, though... The Third Doctor obsesses for the longest time about getting to Metebelis 3 before getting a blue crystal that ultimately proves his undoing. The First Doctor--the original, the genuine article, you might say -- wears a ring with a big blue stone in it that he uses at least once to hypnotize someone. Could it be that Hartnell-Doctor's ring is a crystal from Metebelis 3?
K9 isn't really tin.
OH! Seriously, though... The Third Doctor obsesses for the longest time about getting to Metebelis 3 before getting a blue crystal that ultimately proves his undoing. The First Doctor--the original, the genuine article, you might say
-- wears a ring with a big blue stone in it that he uses at least once to hypnotize someone. Could it be that Hartnell-Doctor's ring is a crystal from Metebelis 3?
I'm down with that.
Among my notable companions (and Doctors!)--
Giordano Bruno, with the fourth Doctor (between Sarah and Leela).
Jean-Luc Picard (post-Stargazer, pre-Enterprise), with the sixth Doctor (before Mel).
Mary Tudor (a teenager, before she became Queen Mary) and Teddy Roosevelt (when he's about fifteen), with the tenth Doctor (between Martha and Donna) for a TARDIS trio.
Also Marilyn Monroe who he very briefly married..
One of my pet theories is that the Time War doctor actually did burn Galifrey but the events of the special seem to have rebooted that event.. 9 does remember it and he remembers he was the one to do it as the War Doctor... So I still think one version of the Doctor did burn Galifrey to the ground in the Time War..
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