The Battle of New York?
Agents of SHIELD - Season 2 Discussion Threads. (Spoilers Likely)
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He left to get married, right? Maybe his wife was killed by an enhanced person and then he came back with a vengeance?
The best place to be recruited by HYDRA was within SHIELD, so I'm thinking "something else."
And Guy, you're like the Hybrids on BSG...I may not understand most of what you're saying, but I know there's truth behind it.
And Guy, you're like the Hybrids on BSG...I may not understand most of what you're saying, but I know there's truth behind it.
As a rule, the phrase "with a vengeance" doesn't literally mean "seeking revenge." It's just a metaphor. It can mean to do something with violence, but it usually just means going to excess, going all-out, pulling out all the stops, etc. Like, say, "Last year this show had declining viewership, but this year its ratings are resurging with a vengeance." Or something along those lines. It's just used for emphasis.
I think Coulson's line simply means that Gonzales returned to SHIELD with fierce determination and commitment to his job, or that he achieved a lot and made a big name for himself.
Yes, I thought Coulson was alluding to Gonzalez throwing himself into his work to avoid his greif over his wife's passing.
Except for Skinhead, the real SHIELD don't seem too bad and I think they may think of themselves as "real" because HYDRA did not conquer the Illiad, as opposed to the Triskelion or Fridge. They didn't win at the Hub, but that has been seized by Talbot's SHIELDbusters. Is there any other "real" SHIELD's running around out there? But I think this plot line is actually rather more realistic than popular. Not everyone in an organization as big as SHIELD was is going to just follow step with a change of leadership under difficult circumstances. I think Gonzalez seems to be a good guy but think's Coulson's got alien worms in his brain and can't be trusted, Fury's appointment or not. Does Gonzalez even know Fury is alive? Maybe he thinks Coulson took it after Fury's death. Maybe Agent Weaver wasn't killed by HYDRA because she is one of them.
Except for Skinhead, the real SHIELD don't seem too bad and I think they may think of themselves as "real" because HYDRA did not conquer the Illiad, as opposed to the Triskelion or Fridge. They didn't win at the Hub, but that has been seized by Talbot's SHIELDbusters. Is there any other "real" SHIELD's running around out there? But I think this plot line is actually rather more realistic than popular. Not everyone in an organization as big as SHIELD was is going to just follow step with a change of leadership under difficult circumstances. I think Gonzalez seems to be a good guy but think's Coulson's got alien worms in his brain and can't be trusted, Fury's appointment or not. Does Gonzalez even know Fury is alive? Maybe he thinks Coulson took it after Fury's death. Maybe Agent Weaver wasn't killed by HYDRA because she is one of them.
Well that's how Murder She Wrote worked.
If you've seen a guest star in something else, ever, then they're the murderer.
Although, if Skinhead was Hydra, his orders would have been to not rock the boat until Hydra was ready collectively to give it another go?
He's a red herring.
If you've seen a guest star in something else, ever, then they're the murderer.
Although, if Skinhead was Hydra, his orders would have been to not rock the boat until Hydra was ready collectively to give it another go?
He's a red herring.
I dunno, I think the writers have moved beyond HYDRA at this point. Ward and 33 have become free agents, all the HYDRA leaders except Bakshi have been killed off, and Bakshi's being brainwashed to serve Ward and 33 now. Sure, Baron Strucker's still around, but he's off in Age of Ultron doing whatever he's doing. I think the show is more about the Inhumans issue at this point than it's about HYDRA, so I think it's likely that the real motive of Gonzales, Calderon, etc. is exactly what it seems: mistrust of "gifted" or "enhanced" individuals.
Natural enemies of the Inhumans?
Atlanteans?
Maximus the Mad?
Atlanteans?
Maximus the Mad?
Not the point. What I'm saying is that the plot developments suggest that the show's writers don't want to focus on HYDRA anymore. Sure, in the abstract, there are bound to be more HYDRA leaders surviving (and we know Strucker's still around), but we won't see them on the show unless Whedon and Tancharoen want to deal with them, and the story developments of recent weeks suggest to me that they don't want that, that they're more interested in exploring the Inhumans now than just rehashing HYDRA yet again.
Its a superhero show, being a vigilante isn't being wrong. They were completely right to work the way they have, otherwise they'd all still be in a deep, dark pit that Talbot or some other moron stuck them in, and Whitehall would be alive and have a super weapon that would allow him to take over the world, not too mention how Deathlok would still be a weapon, HYDRA would have a few more super powered henchmen and the Centipede program would still be running, among other things.
Obeying the law doesn't make a group right, and breaking it doesn't necessarily make a group wrong. In this case, much like heroes in almost every comic and comic based TV show, Coulson's SHIELD are not officially sanctioned, and are kind of wanted by the government (although Talbot seems to be less rabid about catching them these days). Stupid legalities aside, Coulson is still in the right, regardless of whether or not he's following some stupid laws.
I like Fitz's improvement, too. But he's still coming off a little like Vizzini: "Move the thing! And that other thing!"
(I mean that he can't channel the right vocabulary, not that he's a mad villain type.)
(I mean that he can't channel the right vocabulary, not that he's a mad villain type.)
Fitz isn't "getting back to normal" in the sense that he's reverting back to his old self. He's certainly improving leaps and bounds from the start of the season but he is a different person from what he was before. There's a reason they call it *permanent* brain damage. Even if he fully recovers physically, there's no going back to being season one Fitz.
As for the "status quo": I think it should be pretty clear by now that this show doesn't have a status quo and never did. Unless you count a lack of status quo as a status quo in and of itself....
As for the "status quo": I think it should be pretty clear by now that this show doesn't have a status quo and never did. Unless you count a lack of status quo as a status quo in and of itself....
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Just reviewed the footage from "One Door Closes" and screencapped.net's archives for "End of the Beginning". Granted that it looks like digitally altered footage of the USS John C. Stennis (barring any surprises yet to air) but for show continuity purposes, I think we can assume that we're looking at the Iliad in both episodes.
I like Fitz's improvement, too. But he's still coming off a little like Vizzini: "Move the thing! And that other thing!"
(I mean that he can't channel the right vocabulary, not that he's a mad villain type.)
He is now at the level I feel I am after weekend of drinking.
It was recently that he only had full control over one arm.
When she tried to hold his hand, I so though he was going to throw it away.
Brilliant and brooding, or brilliant and a clown?
I think his sexiness quotient has gone up.
Is Fitz going to start talking to fantasies of Mack who hasn't betrayed him?
When she tried to hold his hand, I so though he was going to throw it away.
Brilliant and brooding, or brilliant and a clown?
I think his sexiness quotient has gone up.
Is Fitz going to start talking to fantasies of Mack who hasn't betrayed him?
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