They also had Eurasian Russian playing an Cajun named "Chris Adams" and a Lithuanian-American playing an Irish-Mexican.
Worse than that, I hear all klingons are played by humans in make up, revolting!
My Gripes with STID!
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Worse than that, I hear all klingons are played by humans in make up, revolting!
About him specifically I've no idea, but there are indications that diverse casts are generally good for box office (see p. 25).
Not sure. I'm a fan of Sherlock, but my ticket for STID was "presold" before Cumberbatch was cast. Not sure if "The Cumberbitches" drove the box office or not. I do recall Andrews having a bit of following during Lost.
Yeah, my ticket was "presold" before anybody was cast.
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It's probably the wrong forum to discuss in general outside of how it pertains to nuTrek, but I will say it jibes with my expectations, and it's a fascinating read. Thanks!
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They also had Eurasian Russian playing an Cajun named "Chris Adams" and a Lithuanian-American playing an Irish-Mexican.
Worse than that, I hear all klingons are played by humans in make up, revolting!
Beyond revolting! Why, it's disgustipatin'!
I opine that it is not. Other posters have claimed that casting Montalban as Khan was, so I was just throwing out a similar, modern example to see if that opinion still holds up.
Aye, I should've ended my question with a smiley to show that I was merely being facetious. 
Aye, I should've ended my question with a smiley to show that I was merely being facetious.
You can use my sig if you like.Aye, I should've ended my question with a smiley to show that I was merely being facetious.
You can use my sig if you like.Aye, I should've ended my question with a smiley to show that I was merely being facetious.
Thanks,JW, I'll keep that in mind.
Thanks, fonzob1, for understanding.
Thanks to the Academy and the little people who made this award possible.
Theres another possibility around Khan that rarely seems to be mentioned.....assuming he was around 40 when he was being a despot in the 1990s, he would have been born in the fifties. Concieved possibly earlier, depending on how he was conceived. That ties the eugenics very squarely to those practiced in the era of the nazis, and to a group locating to the indian subcontinent in the twilight years of the British Empire and the Raj. Of course, theres all sorts of religious and civil war going on, leading to the formation of pakistan and later bangladesh, which means its a good place to go hide.
However, it also means it is just as likely that khan be of british or european phenotype as asian. If not more so if one wants to talk about the mind set of people practicing eugenics, or the people still in power certainly on a regional level in India at the time. So, his national identity and his personal identity can indeed be from that area even if his genetic identity and phenotype are not.
Given intermarriage and mixed genetic heritage, all he really needs is black hair...and oh look.
This is without discussing brent spiner in enterprise and that connection.
Now, tv and film, and even trek, does not have the greatest record with white washing. This is not one of thise times.
However, it also means it is just as likely that khan be of british or european phenotype as asian. If not more so if one wants to talk about the mind set of people practicing eugenics, or the people still in power certainly on a regional level in India at the time. So, his national identity and his personal identity can indeed be from that area even if his genetic identity and phenotype are not.
Given intermarriage and mixed genetic heritage, all he really needs is black hair...and oh look.
This is without discussing brent spiner in enterprise and that connection.
Now, tv and film, and even trek, does not have the greatest record with white washing. This is not one of thise times.
I'm not entirely sure if Naveen Andrews could have handled the bombastic and unhinged nature of the character "Khan Noonian Singh".
Ladies and gentlemen, thanks to advances in filmmaking technology, especially in the CG area, we are proud to present the likeness and voice of Mahatma Mohandas K. Gandhi in the role of a lifetime: Khan Noonien Singh!
(crowd erupts into very brief cheering until something dawns on them...,and then one hears scattered echoes of: "Wait......what?"
(crowd erupts into very brief cheering until something dawns on them...,and then one hears scattered echoes of: "Wait......what?"
You should be offended that the movie was made at all.
Don't forget Eli Wallach in Good/Bad/Ugly, and Rod Steiger in Duck, You Sucker.
I remember when the film came out many people thought Kirk's death was just not necessary and they were upset about it. It doesn't bother me to the degree it bothered others.
One thing that they can't do without consequences is using a white guy in a black face. It would hurt them so bad they would die.
On that note, let's have a moment of silence for everyone involved in making Tropic Thunder. God rest their souls.
I never saw that movie. Does that constitute a rebuttal of sorts?
Tropic Thunder was hilarious.
Tropic Thunder featured Robert Downie Jr. as an Australian actor who underwent surgery to play a black guy.
Of course this worked because the movie relentlessly mocks him for what he's doing.
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