So ... you like BadBoys, is that what you're saying, WillsBabe? The kind you don't take home to Mum, but, on the other hand ... the kind you make damn sure your girlfriends know ALLLLLLLLL about!
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Which is your favorite love interest for Troi?
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We've NEVER seen Wil Riker and Troi in a relationship on TNG. Whatever they had was BEFORE Encounter at Farpoint; Riker was a ladies man throughout the series, but their were glimpses they cared for each other. So I have zero clue where are the folks who are voting Wil Riker are getting their intel???
The candidates who count were ANY of THEM but Wil Riker.
Worf should be leading in the polls because it's the longest relationship she had ON SCREEN.
The candidates who count were ANY of THEM but Wil Riker.
Worf should be leading in the polls because it's the longest relationship she had ON SCREEN.
We see a lot of relationship building between Will and Troi even if they're not officially a couple, and they reconcile in Insurrection and marry in Nemesis. Considering the movies Will gets a fair amount of time on screen in a relationship with Troi, enough to make a judgement anyways.
For what it's worth, some of my favorite Troi/Riker relationship moments take place in the novels, particularly Imzadi which details their early relationship and also spends some time with them around season 5, while Imzadi II shows the triangle between Troi, Will and Worf and the end of Troi's relationship with Worf. There are dozens of novels with Will and Troi after they reconciled in Insurrection and continuing past Nemesis.
Everyone has every right to support the pairings of their choice, for whatever reasons, but for me it's not about who got the most screen time, but whose interactions I've enjoyed the most.
For what it's worth, some of my favorite Troi/Riker relationship moments take place in the novels, particularly Imzadi which details their early relationship and also spends some time with them around season 5, while Imzadi II shows the triangle between Troi, Will and Worf and the end of Troi's relationship with Worf. There are dozens of novels with Will and Troi after they reconciled in Insurrection and continuing past Nemesis.
Everyone has every right to support the pairings of their choice, for whatever reasons, but for me it's not about who got the most screen time, but whose interactions I've enjoyed the most.
Devinoni Ral.
A LOVE INTEREST is when two individuals who has a relationship seen for a good amount of time. Like Worf and Troi.
The examples you've mentioned were FLINGS not a relationship.
In Nemesis, they're married so that does make Troi/ Riker valid, but fans of TNG knows the only relationship TROI had on the series was with Worf. She had flings with several aliens.
Whatever I saw on the TV screen is canon, so it's not worth anything to me. If you're validating every non canonical source to support your empty opinion that's fine.
Seems your opinion is mixed with literature and your bias notions of interactions. You could easily like them together because they're both white for all that matters.
That guy was a manipulative cold fish. He would have bored Troi to death.
He was all right. I do love the scene when he's being all smug over winning the negotiations, then the wormhole turns out to be unstable and useless and Riker turns to Ral, knowing Ral had basically cheated, and says to him with a big smile on his face "Devinoni Ral let me be the first to congratulate you on winning the rights to the Barzan Wormhole."
Everyone should get to have a moment in life where they basically get to say FU loser to some jerk and do it in such a great way.
I'm glad someone else liked Wyatt Miller. He and Troi definitely had a good helping of chemistry going on, more so than Troi and Riker had most of the time. I would have loved it if they had married but remained on the ship. Wyatt could have been a recurring character, it would have opened up more story opportunities for Troi and would have changed the dynamic between her and Riker in interesting ways. Wyatt, as a physician, could have also provided support to Beverly.
Plus in Haven he was definitely more likable than RIker who spends the whole episode pouting and jumping around like a monkey.
Still I voted for Worf, because he was already a character on the show, and he and Deanna also had a lot of chemistry. I actually bought that they were involved with one another, it seemed "real". Troi and Worf always played off one another splendidly and so involving them with one another was a natural choice.
But when it comes down to it, I actually prefer every love interest for Troi over Will Riker. Their relationship was awful in my eyes. Their fuck-buddy existence seemed like a left-over from the swinging singles of TOS, on a ship where they supposedly were able to have spouses and families on board. I always thought they would have worked better as close friends than lovers.
Based on what I've seen from TNG episodes, Troi and Riker were good friends but I never thought they had good chemistry together. There's a reason for that, we never saw them together and whatever they had was where it belonged... IN THE PAST. I have zero clue how anyone would find Will Riker as a love interest for Troi when it was never seen. It's ridiculous.
And I agree Wyatt Miller was a very good love interest. Far more than Will Riker, unless for what it's worth reading lots of Fan fiction which is NOT canon to the live action TV series.
And I agree Wyatt Miller was a very good love interest. Far more than Will Riker, unless for what it's worth reading lots of Fan fiction which is NOT canon to the live action TV series.
A love interest doesn't just have to be an actual relationship. It can also be a potential relationship.
You don't consider the novels canon, fine. We're entitled to differences in opinion. I think it's argumentative and rude to say I have an "empty opinion".
You say I "could easily like them together because they're both white for all that matters"....I have no idea where you're coming from with this. Race has no bearing on my opinion, and this seems pretty borderline like you're insulting me. Let's try and not make this personal.
Fans enjoy this kind of speculation. It isn't just restricted to Trek either, media (and probably literary, for all I know) fans across the board love to speculate about this kind of thing. It's one of the key activities of fanishness (as evidenced by the thread itself). Fans love to speculate on relationships between characters - it's as much a part of being a fan as anything else. In fact I'd define it as a key activity!
I think that the actors worked hard to keep the relationship alive, and while it is shown as being a friendship one a lot of the time, I think it veers towards romance occasionally. For instance, the romantic walk and kiss in the park in Mengage a Trois. I can't see how one can describe that as friendship and not romance - they are in a lovely garden, they are holding hands, they kiss and they are disappointed to be intruded on.
I liked that psycho alien who looked like Mitt Romney with the sides of his head shaved.
They would have been good together.
They would have been good together.
I have to admit I liked Troi/Worf, its a shame they never developed that further.
I will say this: A very vocal minority in STAR TREK fandom tries to make it seem otherwise, but ... Riker never did Troi wrong!
He never rocked up when they were supposed to meet (before the show started, in their history) but I can't seem to recall any times during the show itself he did her wrong. If the flashback in Violations is right in some respects, he would have had a relationship with her, but she said that not while they were on the same ship. So, all those folks who say that she sat around waiting for him might be wrong. From Violations it looks like she sent him on his way. (Mind you, she didn't seem to have the same qualms about Worf!
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I always have the impression that Troi agrees she's not ready to be serious with Will to save face because she knows he's not ready (and she would know)
She certainly jumped at getting a second chance with Tom.
As much as I get frustrated with Will for not putting a ring on it sooner, I have never doubted that he loves her more than anyone else. They both show caring for each other repeatedly thru the series. There's lots of little moments where they reach for each other in a crisis that always make me happy to see.
She certainly jumped at getting a second chance with Tom.
As much as I get frustrated with Will for not putting a ring on it sooner, I have never doubted that he loves her more than anyone else. They both show caring for each other repeatedly thru the series. There's lots of little moments where they reach for each other in a crisis that always make me happy to see.
Troi had moments like that with a lot of characters on the show. It shows Troi is a caring character. Any assumptions of Troi and Riker showing signs they wanted each other is a dream from fandom.
As for Thomas Riker? IT HAS BEEN SEEN, it's clear Thomas is madly in love with Troi, and she's caught in a flux from her past. Even in real life, couples fell apart because the person they had feelings for DOES NOT EXIST ANYMORE. This is a prime example of Will and Deanna; their relationship ended BEFORE being assigned on the Enterprise. Whatever they had WAS NEVER SEEN.
All caps are considered to be yelling and generally are seen as bad manners at best.
There's plenty of room for interpretation of subtext in all the relationships on the show, but I think most people will agree that Troi and Riker's feelings for each other are referenced many times thru the series. And then they reconciled in Insurrection and married in Nemesis.
There's plenty of room for interpretation of subtext in all the relationships on the show, but I think most people will agree that Troi and Riker's feelings for each other are referenced many times thru the series. And then they reconciled in Insurrection and married in Nemesis.
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