Would there be? Star Trek uses the US Navy as it's starfleet equivalent and I'm not sure that any naval ship Senor El Presidente boards changes from U.S.S. Dongtacular to Navy 1 or something.
Duties of the Federation President
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It's rather presumptuous to think that Starfleet will create its rules after the US of A. There's a possibility that in a century or two they won't be the most influential country in the world, in fact they may have lost that status already and even they were the most influential country in the world by then that still doesn't mean that they'll inspire all the rules.
Starfleet's rank system included the ranks of Lt. Commander and Commander. Only four navies on Earth use those ranks, the US, the UK, Ireland and Canada.
If Starfleet isn't model after the US, then which navy they are modeled after is a short list.
If Starfleet isn't model after the US, then which navy they are modeled after is a short list.
The Federation President is actual elect by the Federation Janitorial Service, in a secret ballot down at the union hall.
Don't the Australian & New Zealand Navy also use those ranks to name two others. Though so far I'm notcing a trend all the aforementioned countries were at one time or another part of the British Empire.
I could easily claim that Starfleet is more modelled after the RN of the 18th Century which undertook missions of exploration as well as defense
I could easily claim that Starfleet is more modelled after the RN of the 18th Century which undertook missions of exploration as well as defense
Starfleet's rank system included the ranks of Lt. Commander and Commander. Only four navies on Earth use those ranks, the US, the UK, Ireland and Canada.
If Starfleet isn't model after the US, then which navy they are modeled after is a short list.
The Federation President is actual elect by the Federation Janitorial Service, in a secret ballot down at the union hall.
China is the most populated country in the world, India is the second most populated country in the world. It's rather naive to think that a worldwide government could be implemented without them and a few others having some say in how it will function. In a democratic world the USA represent only a small fraction of the population. It's likely that they'll only contribute for a similar fraction in how the world will be administrated.
It's pandering to an audience but otherwise incredibly naive to think that the laws for example will be handled the American way.
And why would anyone speculate something like that? It's also likely that the greatest losses will be suffered by the most technologically advanced countries as they will be the prime targets.
Starfleet's rank system included the ranks of Lt. Commander and Commander. Only four navies on Earth use those ranks, the US, the UK, Ireland and Canada.
If Starfleet isn't model after the US, then which navy they are modeled after is a short list.
The Federation President is actual elect by the Federation Janitorial Service, in a secret ballot down at the union hall.
More likely one of those "handlebar mustache" contests. (Reference the portrait.)
Firstly, their not being as many Chinese or Indian Starfleet personel.
Secondly, it is assumed that the war was between India and China. Or that it stems from the Eugenics Wars, where Kahn was said to be Indian.
Paris One, actually.
That link also states that the President can also travel aboard Starfleet vessels (typically the USS Venture) although it doesn't say whether that ship will be called Starfleet One while doing so.
nuKahn doesn't look Indian to me.
^ Probably he got cosmetic surgery to disguise himself as John Harrison.
And Ithekro is right about China. In fact, remember the Eastern Coalition (ECON) from ST:FC? That was supposed to BE China. They changed it at the last minute. Probably didn't want to irritate Chinese fans.
And Ithekro is right about China. In fact, remember the Eastern Coalition (ECON) from ST:FC? That was supposed to BE China. They changed it at the last minute. Probably didn't want to irritate Chinese fans.
The Eugenics wars were supposed to be over by now. Something must have prevented them.
They would only be targets if they were one of the participants in the war.
One of the reason I (among others) think that China and India were the main players is that in less than fifty years the Earth was recovered and had in fact made significant improvements over prewar Earth. This means that the people not apart of the 600 million dead had to able to rebuild the Earth, that means (imho) the "most technologically advanced countries" weren't involved in the third world war.
Starfleet's rank system included the ranks of Lt. Commander and Commander. Only four navies on Earth use those ranks, the US, the UK, Ireland and Canada.
If Starfleet isn't model after the US, then which navy they are modeled after is a short list.
The Federation President is actual elect by the Federation Janitorial Service, in a secret ballot down at the union hall.
China is the most populated country in the world, India is the second most populated country in the world. It's rather naive to think that a worldwide government could be implemented without them and a few others having some say in how it will function. In a democratic world the USA represent only a small fraction of the population. It's likely that they'll only contribute for a similar fraction in how the world will be administrated.
It's pandering to an audience but otherwise incredibly naive to think that the laws for example will be handled the American way.
Well, the United States did have an impact on political systems around the world as it is.
For instance, the use of the title "President" for the head of state of a sovereign republic was originally "invented" by the United States. Latin America soon followed that example in the early 19th century. France became the first non-American country to do the same in 1848 and eventually pretty much everybody else followed suit.
The First French Republic in its latter phase had still attempted to emulate Ancient Rome by appointing Consuls as its highest government officials, but when the Second Republic came to be in 1848 they dropped the bullshit and went full American, so to speak.
Nowadays both China and India have presidents too (although strictly speaking, the title the Chinese leader uses in their language could be translated as "chairman" just as easily... it was the deliberate choice of the Chinese government to translate it as "president" to follow international convention).
"Good evening, my fellow Federation citizens. The state of the Federation is strong. Everything is going well. The weather is warm and sunny. Everybody loves us and wants to join the Federation. Even our enemies, though they might not realize it yet. Starfleet are our protectors. Their mission is to explore the galaxy and meet new friends in the spirit of diplomacy. Also they have an arsenal big enough to blow all our enemies to hell. Have a nice day!"
Starfleet's rank system included the ranks of Lt. Commander and Commander. Only four navies on Earth use those ranks, the US, the UK, Ireland and Canada.
If Starfleet isn't model after the US, then which navy they are modeled after is a short list.
The Federation President is actual elect by the Federation Janitorial Service, in a secret ballot down at the union hall.
China is the most populated country in the world, India is the second most populated country in the world. It's rather naive to think that a worldwide government could be implemented without them and a few others having some say in how it will function. In a democratic world the USA represent only a small fraction of the population. It's likely that they'll only contribute for a similar fraction in how the world will be administrated.
It's pandering to an audience but otherwise incredibly naive to think that the laws for example will be handled the American way.
Well, the United States did have an impact on political systems around the world as it is.
For instance, the use of the title "President" for the head of state of a sovereign republic was originally "invented" by the United States. Latin America soon followed that example in the early 19th century. France became the first non-American country to do the same in 1848 and eventually pretty much everybody else followed suit.
The First French Republic in its latter phase had still attempted to emulate Ancient Rome by appointing Consuls as its highest government officials, but when the Second Republic came to be in 1848 they dropped the bullshit and went full American, so to speak.
Nowadays both China and India have presidents too (although strictly speaking, the title the Chinese leader uses in their language could be translated as "chairman" just as easily... it was the deliberate choice of the Chinese government to translate it as "president" to follow international convention).
The term President wasn't invented by the USA, I will grant you that that the USA was the first to use it to mean the Head of State but the term President was in use before then. But in the case of China, the President is the head of State but the Premier is the head of Government.
But other countries have had an impact on the political systems around the world as whilst other frms exist we basically have the Parliamentary(sometimes called Westminster) system or the Presidential System. Both systems have their pros and cons.
Of course there no indication that the Federation uses either system.
They don't have a parliament, or a congress, it not clear if they have separate branches of government. They (apparently) have a single council of representatives running the whole show.
The first use of the term "president" to mean the head of state is only but a small piece of the puzzle. I didn't say that the contribution of the current USA would be null in a future worldwide government, what I said is that it may be a great deal smaller than the ST franchise may have led you to believe. It's funny for example that the Cardassians though having a completely different justice system, keep referring to the American system (directly or indirectly) as though they were aware that their system is but a parody of it. That's ridiculously obvious to anyone who's not an American.
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