So why would they do them......what's their incentive?
Even in a world where money exists, people generally don't want to do that kind of work so why, in a world where you get no reward, would you do it
It's madness
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So why would they do them......what's their incentive?
Even in a world where money exists, people generally don't want to do that kind of work so why, in a world where you get no reward, would you do it
It's madness
It's like those guys who say prostitutes enjoy their work
The federation is that guy
Picard is that guy
When his drinks are brought to him in ten forward, he looks them in eye with a look that says, yeah you love bringing daddy drinks don't you baby
Totally.
There probably is a seedy underbelly to earth though. Simply because, people. And boredom with the manicured theme park. You can't brainwash everyone into working to "better" themselves, because it's the people in power who define what that better is. Sure they tell you that you've evolved as a species into believing in this "better" as being your goal during your decades alive but not everyone is going to fall for that.
Most people do not enjoy their work. Most people don't have "careers" they just have jobs. The Federation is like communist propaganda about noble workers selflessly marching their people forward into the glorious enlightenment. That's the sort of crap they tell the people doing service jobs they can't get technology to take the place of. Picard speaks from one of the most privileged positions a person could have, from a self serving all encompassing organization he has spent his whole life in from adolescence onward.
"We work to better ourselves." Slogan.
And not very hilariously he tells this to a black woman living in a virtual refugee camp post an apocalyptic level war.
"Don't worry dear, you won't be a primitive forever, look at meee!"
You're forgetting the constant threat of extermination.
Even when they're not at war, there's always something.
If they sit on their ass, which is a perfectly valid life choice for a culture with infinite resources who only needs a dedicated workforce consisting of 0.2 percent of the species to keep the trains running on time... But if they sit on their ass, a space whale or a Romulan super weapon might take out half the Federation and that's called pre-guilt.
Unpaid internships.
Same deal.
You prove you're not a fuck up, eventually you move up the ladder and get some real power and couple extra square feet to live in, and maybe a window.
Even when they're not at war, there's always something.
If they sit on their ass, which is a perfectly valid life choice for a culture with infinite resources who only needs a dedicated workforce consisting of 0.2 percent of the species to keep the trains running on time... But if they sit on their ass, a space whale or a Romulan super weapon might take out half the Federation and that's called pre-guilt.
Unpaid internships.
Same deal.
You prove you're not a fuck up, eventually you move up the ladder and get some real power and couple extra square feet to live in, and maybe a window.
You might think that sexism and racism exists after world war three.
Have you considered though that there is no law for at least a decade after the bombs drop?
Mobrule.
If you try to be sexist or racist, the person you are being sexist or racist to, counts how many friends you have, and then they either kill your racist/sexist ass then, or come back in half an hour with twice as many friends as you have.
WWIII is going to be the great equalizer.
The average Women of the 21st century has equal skills and strengths to the average man of 21st century even if they are still often treated like women from the 19th century. Women will be valued for what they can do as people finally.
Here's the real take away, after WWIII a man from the 19th century would be worth 10 times of either gender from the 21st century, because they can build cities, kill cannibals, hunt game, farm and cook without crying or complaining.
That's Star Trek, so full of hope.
Men and Women united, killing all the Lawyers.
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Resume meat, social censure if you don't.
Not having a job is the 24th century equivalent of living in your parents' basement. Sure, you can get by, but it's embarrassing, and not going to get you many dates.
Also, not having money is not the same thing as not having currency. In socialist governments, influence is currency. Having a job like that gets you influence. Wash the dishes for a marine biologist, you have a better shot at a marine biology job.
Which is how apprenticeships used to work.
Although there are just as many women who cannot find work who might give up and lead an idle life too.
Besides, we are mostly walking about Earth and established colonies.
What about new colonies?
And it also depends on if your goal is to build Trantor for billions, or Little House on the Prairie for thousands.
The Federation would make determinations about what a world is good for, from strip mining all the way down to so useless they might as well let the idle have some where to live without getting under foot.
That has to be the choice: Live on Earth in a tiny box, or live on a far away on a colony managing some sort of plantation.
Although there are just as many women who cannot find work who might give up and lead an idle life too.
Besides, we are mostly walking about Earth and established colonies.
What about new colonies?
And it also depends on if your goal is to build Trantor for billions, or Little House on the Prairie for thousands.
The Federation would make determinations about what a world is good for, from strip mining all the way down to so useless they might as well let the idle have some where to live without getting under foot.
That has to be the choice: Live on Earth in a tiny box, or live on a far away on a colony managing some sort of plantation.
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Star Trek is always banging on about Shakespeare and this is no exception:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let%27s_kill_all_the_lawyers
That's why you need to be a part of a subculture of jobless bludgers staying inside the law but doing it on beaches, with replicators. All you need is a replicator and land no one has a right to kick you off of. Now maybe on the glorious paradise that is earth only the government owns the land and you have to do stuff, like service jobs, to be allowed to even sleep there. In order to keep everyone wanting to work when replicators make this completely unnecessary force will have to be used. They probably beam out entire happy camps of folk just living the good life on some faraway beach, beam them out into a detention facility for the crime of living on the planet without working.
On King of the Nerds this morning one of the nerdgirls questioned the existence of Hamlet in Klingon suggesting that there wasn't enough vocabulary in Klingon to complete a translation.
I'm not happy with Lily for saying that.
Idjit.
Hamlet wasn't translated into Klingon, it was written in Klingon.
You know how Shakespeare always has a really high forehead in pictures? That's right, he was a Klingon.
I suppose if I squint, I can almost see what you're talking about.
I guess we should all be grateful we never saw this episode, the BIG REVEAL!!
Episode?
It was a movie, and we both saw it.
Hamlet in Klingon has been available in all quality bookshops since the early 90s.
okay...
What about the Moon?
And Mars?
Colony worlds that are recognized as independent states who converse with the Federation and the United Earth on their own terms.
Although Mars has the primary Federation shipyards on it, so they drank the fricking Kool Aide.
But who is to say that the moon men do not have moon money?
It was a movie, and we both saw it.
Hamlet in Klingon has been available in all quality bookshops since the early 90s.
okay...
What about the Moon?
And Mars?
Colony worlds that are recognized as independent states who converse with the Federation and the United Earth on their own terms.
Although Mars has the primary Federation shipyards on it, so they drank the fricking Kool Aide.
But who is to say that the moon men do not have moon money?
So then Romeo disemboweled Tybalt with his bat'leth...
I suppose if I squint, I can almost see what you're talking about.
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