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Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

What grade would you give the Marvel Cinematic Universe? (Ever-Changing Question)


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Neither company makes this deal to use one of the also ran Spider-men as the lead. It'll be Peter cause that's the general audience draw, it's as simple as that.

I agree.

That said, I think there's every chance Parker will borrow quit a few elements from the Ultimate Spider-man series as opposed to being just the 616 version on screen.
 
If they're smart, they'll save Miles Morales until 5 years down the line when the "new" Peter Parker actor's contract is up and/or wants out/is no longer testing well for the tween girl demo. Marvel do seem to be in this for the long haul after all.
 
As someone who has never really read Spiderman I would definitely like a change from PP to Miles Morales, the MCU could use a bit more diversity... Or give the role of Peter Parker to Donald Glover (wich would sadly end the internet).
 
If they're smart, they'll save Miles Morales until 5 years down the line when the "new" Peter Parker actor's contract is up and/or wants out/is no longer testing well for the tween girl demo. Marvel do seem to be in this for the long haul after all.

They already have not one but two of the replacement Captain Americas already in the MCU and the comics have a replacement for Thor if Chris Hemsworth wants out.
 
spideman is a teen again? really?

just when I thought I could start liking mcu again, they make peter a teen. why cant we have an adult Spiderman, I would like to see tobey back as a more mature spiderman, maybe married to mary jane with a kid.

a teen spideman is not needed.

I would also love for it to be peter parker and not Miles Morales as it is the first time Spiderman will be part of the mcu, it will make perfect scenes if its peter. they could kill peter off some where in the future and replace him with Miles Morales
 
I would have no problem with a teenage Spider-Man.... as long as they actually got a teenager to play him. A genuine 16 year old playing Spidey would be really cool and interesting to see, I think. Instead of these 20-somethings who you always have to struggle to imagine being younger than they are.
 
The MCU is largely, but not entirely, based on the Ultimate Universe. Peter was very young in that universe so it fits nicely. It looks like Marvel's upcoming event this summer is largely designed to more closely align the comics with the movies so it will be interesting to see what happens to the Peter/Miles dynamic.
 
High school/college age Spider-Man is best Spider-Man, so I definitely support casting an actor around the 18-24 age range. (They won't cast a minor, sorry guys.) And of course it's going to be Peter Parker. Marvel isn't going to bring Spider-Man into the MCU and not have him be Peter. That said, that doesn't mean Peter has to be played by a white actor. There is absolutely nothing in his backstory that requires him to be white.
 
If they're smart, they'll save Miles Morales until 5 years down the line when the "new" Peter Parker actor's contract is up and/or wants out/is no longer testing well for the tween girl demo. Marvel do seem to be in this for the long haul after all.

They already have not one but two of the replacement Captain Americas already in the MCU and the comics have a replacement for Thor if Chris Hemsworth wants out.

Plus I gather there's a replacement Iron Man they can go with is RDJ ever gets tired of making huge amounts of money.
If Marvel are serious about this continuity going the distance then I'm sure they have a contingency to replace or at least supplant every major character currently on the roster.

spideman is a teen again? really?

just when I thought I could start liking mcu again, they make peter a teen. why cant we have an adult Spiderman, I would like to see tobey back as a more mature spiderman, maybe married to mary jane with a kid.

a teen spideman is not needed.

I would also love for it to be peter parker and not Miles Morales as it is the first time Spiderman will be part of the mcu, it will make perfect scenes if its peter. they could kill peter off some where in the future and replace him with Miles Morales

Thing is though, we've never actually had a real teenage Peter Parker yet. Both actors to have recently portrayed him on-screen were in their mid 20's to early 30's.

In practical terms, it's just easier to go with the familiar teenage Parker set-up, especially if the character is going to appear in Cap 3 and/or Avengers 3. The audience is already familiar enough with the character that only a brief introduction would be required. Indeed, I suspect that the way they'll do it is introduce Peter Parker in a cameo (most likely in a post-credits tease.) That's not something you can do as effectively with a more obscure version of the character.

While I agree Miles Morales would bring some much needed diversity to the MCU, it's just not the time and doing an adult version of Parker might undermine the mentor/role-model dynamic with Cap & Stark in Civil War. That story works best when Parker is an impressionable youth, torn between two people he looks up to on differing levels.
 
I do hope they cast young. Parker needs to look like a baby next to Stark etc. An adult 20 something Parker just wouldn't provide that contrast.
 
High school/college age Spider-Man is best Spider-Man, so I definitely support casting an actor around the 18-24 age range. (They won't cast a minor, sorry guys.) And of course it's going to be Peter Parker. Marvel isn't going to bring Spider-Man into the MCU and not have him be Peter. That said, that doesn't mean Peter has to be played by a white actor. There is absolutely nothing in his backstory that requires him to be white.

^Agreed.
 
High school/college age Spider-Man is best Spider-Man, so I definitely support casting an actor around the 18-24 age range. (They won't cast a minor, sorry guys.) And of course it's going to be Peter Parker. Marvel isn't going to bring Spider-Man into the MCU and not have him be Peter. That said, that doesn't mean Peter has to be played by a white actor. There is absolutely nothing in his backstory that requires him to be white.


I disagree, I prefer a slightly older Peter Parker, because part of what makes the character interesting is things like struggling to find or keep a job and paying the rent while being a superhero. High school or college Parker only has to balance a relationship against his other life, he doesn't have more adult concerns.
 
The MCU is largely, but not entirely, based on the Ultimate Universe. Peter was very young in that universe so it fits nicely. It looks like Marvel's upcoming event this summer is largely designed to more closely align the comics with the movies so it will be interesting to see what happens to the Peter/Miles dynamic.

Thankfully not entirely or else they'd never go within a 1000 miles of Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch.
 
MCU borrows elements from the Ultimates universe, but I wouldn't say it's predominantly based on it.
 
If they're going a "light reboot" / "implied continuity" direction, I think they'd be more likely to indirectly reference elements from the Raimi films, which more people saw and liked.

Except going with the Raimi films means having a film series where Green Goblin is dead, Doc Ock is dead, and Venom and the symbiote are dead.

Would Marvel really want a universe where three major villains are unusable due to them being dead?
You don't seem to understand what I meant by "light reboot", "implied continuity", or "indirectly reference". I never for a moment said or meant to imply that the new Spidey would have the same continuity, lock, stock, and barrel. But if this is going to be a new version of Spider-Man who already has some implied history behind him, they're more likely to make that implied history resemble some details of the Raimi films, which the general audience is more likely to recognize.

I disagree, I prefer a slightly older Peter Parker, because part of what makes the character interesting is things like struggling to find or keep a job and paying the rent while being a superhero. High school or college Parker only has to balance a relationship against his other life, he doesn't have more adult concerns.
I take it you haven't read much 60s or 70s Spider-Man, have you? Elements such as "struggling to find or keep a job and paying the rent while being a superhero" defined the character from Day 1.
 
Well, I think they'll go with the same origin as the Raimi films. I think the only uncertainty is his girlfriend situation. I'm not going to guarantee they'll go with Mary Jane like Raimi did (but I'm not going to guarantee they'll go with Gwen Stacey either). Who knows, maybe they can shake things up and go with Betty Brandt.

I doubt they'll reference anything from Spider-Man 2 or 3 (or the Green Goblin stuff from the first one). It's only the origin story, then they can start fresh.
 
MCU borrows elements from the Ultimates universe, but I wouldn't say it's predominantly based on it.

And now that they have Spider-Man in the mix, they might go with the Ultimate origin where the spider that bit Peter was part of OsCorp's attempts to duplicate the Super Soldier Serum. Kind of like how they did a soft-retcon of Bruce Banner's experiments to try the same in The Avengers.
 
Obviously the other reason he needs to be young is to avoid having to explain why he never appeared in the last 10 Marvel movies, even though they're all set in pretty much the same city.
 
MCU borrows elements from the Ultimates universe, but I wouldn't say it's predominantly based on it.

And now that they have Spider-Man in the mix, they might go with the Ultimate origin where the spider that bit Peter was part of OsCorp's attempts to duplicate the Super Soldier Serum. Kind of like how they did a soft-retcon of Bruce Banner's experiments to try the same in The Avengers.

Eh, I don't see why. I like the idea that Spider-Man's radioactive spider was created in the pure pursuit of science. You could go with the 90s cartoon, which was more genetic engineering than radiation, but it was still just about science.

With the Hulk, it makes sense, given his military connections, to go with something planned as a weapon. But I'm not sure Spider-Man needs to be an accident arising out of a planned weapon.
 
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