Grimm - Season 4
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Juliet got a gun?
That means "logically" that she's versed in gun safety, and spent time at the range and can probably hit what she aims at most of the time. She is not a liability who is going to shoot her own foot or another member of the team.
Cool?
This is season 3, have we seen Juliet blowing away bad guys before?
Is she a member of the NRA?
Point is, seconds after we discover that Juliet is a gun-nut who can take care of herself and save the day standing on a pile of dead bodies, rather than being a slightly hotter version of Robin who always needs to be saved, she develops god like magic super powers that can yell holes through peoples heads.
That means "logically" that she's versed in gun safety, and spent time at the range and can probably hit what she aims at most of the time. She is not a liability who is going to shoot her own foot or another member of the team.
Cool?
This is season 3, have we seen Juliet blowing away bad guys before?
Is she a member of the NRA?
Point is, seconds after we discover that Juliet is a gun-nut who can take care of herself and save the day standing on a pile of dead bodies, rather than being a slightly hotter version of Robin who always needs to be saved, she develops god like magic super powers that can yell holes through peoples heads.
She's American, all Americans are crazy gun-toting NRA members (apart from the lily-livered liberals who want to ban guns out of hand). 
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Unfortunately, there are far too many tragic headlines out there proving that American gun owners are not necessarily versed in gun safety. It seems that practically every week there's a story about a child either being killed by a mishandled gun or killing themselves/someone else with a gun that some negligent adult allowed them to get their hands on.
However, as a cop, Nick certainly understands firearm safety and would've helped Juliette get the proper training.
However, as a cop, Nick certainly understands firearm safety and would've helped Juliette get the proper training.
I like them all together and isn't there an image of them where you can see Hank? I thought I saw it when I watched on Hulu.
Yes, ever since she met Nick her life has been pretty grim, but then Alicia Masters can relate when she hooked with a Grimm.
She went to Renard because he's angling to become the star of the show and boot Nick to the sideline.
See? If you were completely unfamiliar with the show and saw that screen-grab, you would naturally assume that Sasha Roiz is the star of the series. He has the physical presence and gravitas to dominate a hero line-up.
^Indeed. Nick is the blandest, least interesting member of the entire cast, both actor and character. There's a strange tradition in American film to make the main hero as generic and whitebread as possible, so as not to alienate anybody, I guess, and to save the really strong and interesting actors for the supporting roles. Of course, there are just as many shows that are built around a charismatic core figure, e.g. Columbo or House -- but this isn't one of them.
I think the reason so many people responded so positively to Trubel was because they found any other Grimm more interesting than Nick.
I think the reason so many people responded so positively to Trubel was because they found any other Grimm more interesting than Nick.
People that gorgeous do not have to be charismatic.
Four years on and now Grimm has their own version of a Scooby gang and really Nick is a reactional character like most cop cahracters on TV are. And with so much happening on the show outside of Portland all Nick can od is handle what comes his way. The show seems to be abandoned the key storyline and who really knows what the royals are up to, Renard and royals and the rebels could have their own spinoff if Grimm's ratings were higher.
Too true, regarding the Trubel character.
As I read this post, I pictured "The Royals" written in the Originals font on an all-black screen, with a ribbon of red looping around the top and finishing with a drop of blood falling through the title.
Apropos nothing, I'm really not in favor of a completely aware Wu. This development gives Reggie Lee WAY too much screen time to ham-it-up with his snarky face-mugging. And smearing his greasy French-fry fingers all over those one-of-a-kind tomes that have been in the Grimm family for centuries...! Ugh.
Years ago, I bet Wu was that kid that wanted to read your comics and -- after seeing his Cheetos-battered fingers -- you politely refused to allow him access. He then threw a fit and an intervening adult forced you to hand them over to him in an effort to teach you about the value of sharing. And just like that -- poof! -- your beloved issue of Moon Knight becomes toilet paper.
Bite your tongue. Wu is awesome. And you know why? Because he's the first character in this show who's actually had the basic common sense to sit down and study the books intensively in advance, rather than just being totally reactive and never looking up any Wesen until after he's already encountered it, like Nick, Hank, and the rest do. Wu has always been the smartest character on this show.
The thing that bugs me about Nick is his profound lack of curiosity regarding the history and politics and mythology of the Wesen world. He's always focused on the case-of-the-week and isn't really interested in the big picture at all. He just wants to know what he needs to know to catch this week's bad guy . . . and has never bothered to learn much about the secret world of the Wesen beyond that.
I can't remember the episode, but there was a moment a few seasons ago where Munroe and Rosalie revealed some intriguing new bit of Wesen society and Nick didn't seem at all interested in learning more about it, except to the degree that it would help him understand this week's case. I wanted to kick him for not asking any followup questions.
Nick thinks like a cop, not a Grimm. Nick is the guy who, if confronted with a genuine alien from outer space, would just want to know if they had an alibi for a recent homicide. He wouldn't bother asking them where they came from, what their home planet is like, what they've learned about the universe. He wouldn't be curious about that stuff at all.
I can't remember the episode, but there was a moment a few seasons ago where Munroe and Rosalie revealed some intriguing new bit of Wesen society and Nick didn't seem at all interested in learning more about it, except to the degree that it would help him understand this week's case. I wanted to kick him for not asking any followup questions.
Nick thinks like a cop, not a Grimm. Nick is the guy who, if confronted with a genuine alien from outer space, would just want to know if they had an alibi for a recent homicide. He wouldn't bother asking them where they came from, what their home planet is like, what they've learned about the universe. He wouldn't be curious about that stuff at all.
What should concern you though is that Wu is perfectly willing to throw away police procedure now. The recent hate group storyline and missing persons case is a matter for the FBI not local cops. Of course it's odd that the FBI, NSA or even OHS isn't aware of the Wesen community. Nick is a cop and thinks like a cop, but Wu has all the makings of a loose cannon.
Nick has been a cop longer than he's been a Grimm though so his reaction is understandable. But then the show drags in telling the bigger picture, if the show was cancelled at the end of the season we'd be no wiser about Wesen society now then we were two years ago.
And not just those things. He's also profoundly lacking in curiosity about the strange and creepy new powers he got after his zombification, his tendency to zone out and stop breathing and turn pale for extended periods. Sure, it came with heightened senses and strength, but any normal person would be freaked out and terrified by occasionally turning into a reasonable facsimile of a corpse, and would be determined to find out what the hell was happening to him and whether it was dangerous. But Nick has never seemed the least bit interested in getting those answers.
There was a time when the show treated that as an asset -- he was the reformist Grimm, the one who cared more about justice and social outreach and broke away from the racist/genocidal traditions of the Grimm line. But that's another thread the writers have been too lazy to really do anything with the past couple of seasons. Sure, he still has allies like Monroe, Rosalie, Renard, and Bud, but you've still got Wesen of the week reacting to him with terror and surprise when they find out he's the Grimm. Logically, if the writers bothered to build a consistent world and follow through on the ramifications of things, by now the entire Wesen community of the Pacific Northwest would be aware that Nick was a good-guy Grimm and not just out to exterminate them, and he would've continued his efforts to become the sort of liaison between the Wesen and human worlds that he was starting to become in the first season or two. But the writing from season 3 onward has just been so scattered and directionless, and they lost the momentum on that thread, along with the key/map thread and so many others.
Great points about the reactionary nature of Nick and Hank, Christopher, and I will (begrudgingly) give Wu credit for diving into the Wesen lore so avidly after learning of it, but how long are those fragile and archaic texts going to survive after being doused with fast food greases or soda spillage? Granted, Wu's a well-meaning, curious fellow but those books aren't a Big Boy placemat with a word search on the back.
Nicely put, Greg.Didn't we see earlier in the season Wesen in the FBI keeping tabs on Trubel? Maybe they've infiltrated government agencies enough to keep Wesen affairs from being investigated or scrutinized too closely. We've already seen this sort of thing at a local level (Renard) and national level (Hitler).
So what happens if Grimm Nick and Hexenbiest Juliette have a baby?
Would the powers of both parents cancel each other out, and the baby ends up being an ordinary human?
Or would the baby end up having Grimm with zombie powers, along with the face and telekinetic powers of a Hexenbiest? Some sort of SUPER hybrid Wesen?
Also what were the actual chances of this happening? I'm sure this would be a first time in history kind of thing, since even a Grimm and Hexenbiest being in the same room without killing each other has to be extremely rare.
Would the powers of both parents cancel each other out, and the baby ends up being an ordinary human?
Or would the baby end up having Grimm with zombie powers, along with the face and telekinetic powers of a Hexenbiest? Some sort of SUPER hybrid Wesen?
Also what were the actual chances of this happening? I'm sure this would be a first time in history kind of thing, since even a Grimm and Hexenbiest being in the same room without killing each other has to be extremely rare.
You know, that's a good point. The problem with this whole "Oh noes, Juliette is a hexenbiest now" thread is that it's easy to resolve. We already know that all she has to do is drink a bit of Nick's blood and she'll be turned human again. They could resolve this whole crisis in one slightly kinky evening together.
