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Reusing SW EU, painful or joyful?

both painful and joyful. joyful in the sense that the series grew beyond the films and had some awesome novels and cartoon. One carton in particular redeemed Anakin's character as it was painful to watch him in the prequels..so unlikeable ,he was.

Painful in the sense that the EU is not canon. So it means star wars did not grow much.

CW Anakin had more charisma than the Christensen one.

Christensen was a sucking charisma vortex, even draining charisma from those around him.

Stood next to him, even Samuel L. was reduced to just.......awesome !
 
Speaking of the EU inverse, Why didn't episode 7 just use Maria jade as luke's wife. she is a fan favourite in the expanded universe, her character been in the film would have been great. I will never understand why Disney are now saying the EU universe is not cannon. I wish they had just called it an alternate future instead.
 
Because Ep7 outright contradicts much of the post-ROTJ Exanded Universe.

it should not matter much, infact the prequels contradicts the original as well , not everything can be perfect or consistent. the EU has some great stuff. wiping it out never seems good to me. I do however believe Abram's knows what he is doing.
 
Speaking of the EU inverse, Why didn't episode 7 just use Maria jade as luke's wife. she is a fan favourite in the expanded universe, her character been in the film would have been great. I will never understand why Disney are now saying the EU universe is not cannon. I wish they had just called it an alternate future instead.

The plot rumours for the new film suggest that Luke hasn't been around for a long while so the idea that he could have met and married Mara Jade years ago obviously doesn't fit.

There's no way in hell a billion dollar franchise chasing millions of viewers is ever going to be bothered about contradicting a novel series read by a few thousand people.

The best you can hope for is for it to be used a convenient source of ideas, so that way a little of it may survive.
 
it should not matter much, infact the prequels contradicts the original as well .

But that was only a minimum. Furthermore the EU before the Prequels had been explicitly ordered not to delve into the Prequel Era, which avoided potentially large continuity contradictions. However much of the former EU does cover the same era and characters as the Sequels, which presents a much larger problem and the need for a reboot.
 
Speaking of the EU inverse, Why didn't episode 7 just use Maria jade as luke's wife. she is a fan favourite in the expanded universe, her character been in the film would have been great. I will never understand why Disney are now saying the EU universe is not cannon. I wish they had just called it an alternate future instead.
Because the sequel trilogy is probably going to write its own additions to Star Wars science and decades-old backstory. Which is going to be incompatible with the previous EU.
 
Even in the old EU, there's some stuff that contradicts the prequels, or had to be retconned to 'fit' with the new films despite the era being somewhat off limits.
 
Why didn't episode 7 just use Maria jade as luke's wife. she is a fan favourite in the expanded universe

Because a Mary Sue character who was on the dark side but not really is something better left behind?

There is this, but to me, a more compelling reason to leave Mara behind is that her story has already been told. Much better, IMHO anyway, to break new ground and move forward. Tell new stories.

Same with the likes of Grand Admiral Thrawn, Talon Karrde, Corran Horn and Wedge Ant... oh, wait... ;)
 
Why didn't episode 7 just use Maria jade as luke's wife. she is a fan favourite in the expanded universe

Because a Mary Sue character who was on the dark side but not really is something better left behind?

There is this, but to me, a more compelling reason to leave Mara behind is that her story has already been told. Much better, IMHO anyway, to break new ground and move forward. Tell new stories.

Then why even bring back Luke/Leia/Han for that matter? Why not just introduce these new characters and focus on them entirely when the stories of Luke/Leia/Han have been told by Marvel, Dark Horse, Bantam, Del-Rey and Lucasarts in a myriad of formats and stories.
 
Because Luke and the like give us our connection to the previous movies, much like Obi-wan and Anakin are our connection point for the prequel movies. Aside form R2-D2 and C-3P0 that is. It is still supposedly the tale of the Skywalker family over the course of three (or so) generations.

Bringing up Wedge is something though. I wonder if the "survivor" will be in these movies.
 
Furthermore the EU before the Prequels had been explicitly ordered not to delve into the Prequel Era, which avoided potentially large continuity contradictions.

They did make some references that were later problematical, like the one about the Empire fighting against clones in the Zahn books and the ill-fated earlier timeframe for the Clone Wars. But people mostly just overlooked these discrepancies after the prequels and assumed that the books in question were still C-canon where they were not in error.
 
Because a Mary Sue character who was on the dark side but not really is something better left behind?

There is this, but to me, a more compelling reason to leave Mara behind is that her story has already been told. Much better, IMHO anyway, to break new ground and move forward. Tell new stories.

Then why even bring back Luke/Leia/Han for that matter? Why not just introduce these new characters and focus on them entirely when the stories of Luke/Leia/Han have been told by Marvel, Dark Horse, Bantam, Del-Rey and Lucasarts in a myriad of formats and stories.
*shrug* Luke/Leia/Han help a lot with moneymaking?
 
I like the EU (well, at least the Bantam books), disappointed that it was de-canonized and it would be even worse to just take some characters in new versions.
 
I like the EU (well, at least the Bantam books), disappointed that it was de-canonized and it would be even worse to just take some characters in new versions.

That's already happening to a small extent because CW made some characters canon.
 
There is this, but to me, a more compelling reason to leave Mara behind is that her story has already been told. Much better, IMHO anyway, to break new ground and move forward. Tell new stories.

Then why even bring back Luke/Leia/Han for that matter? Why not just introduce these new characters and focus on them entirely when the stories of Luke/Leia/Han have been told by Marvel, Dark Horse, Bantam, Del-Rey and Lucasarts in a myriad of formats and stories.
*shrug* Luke/Leia/Han help a lot with moneymaking?

Exactly. Comparing Luke/Leia/Han to EU characters is an absurd argument anyway.
 
Sometimes characters such as Boba Fett, General Grievous etc. were introduced in the EU-Fett in the Holiday special and Grievous in the Clone Wars miniseries.


However in both cases, production for ESB and ROTS was already being done, although in Fett's case they probably hadn't settled on the final colors yet (Hence why Boba's armor is blue, white and yellow instead of green, orange and red), and according to some of the making of ROTS sources Lucas decided to rework some of Grievous's CG movement after seeing the cartoon.
 
And even if you missed the Holiday Special in its initial airing ( as I did ), you could still get the Boba Fett action figure before TESB came out.
 
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