Star Trek's Troubling 50th Anniversary
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Scared of the fans?
Scared of the fans?
I think the idea is that the series would have more flexibility than something that is seen as a cash-cow by the studio. I doubt the fans have anything to do with it.
Scared of the fans?
I think the idea is that the series would have more flexibility than something that is seen as a cash-cow by the studio. I doubt the fans have anything to do with it.
That's pretty much it, yeah. Plus I think there could be some fun, surreal stuff involved with Forbidden Planets™ that would be very different in tone from Star Trek. Think about that show SyFy just did about the Kennedy-era starship.
Kruezerman, surely you're not suggesting that I'd shy away from such a golden opportunity to mega-troll the fanboise?
The fanbourgeois? 
Was Forbidden Planet the one with the "Id" monster?
I just wanna see what Dennis would've said, have him share his ideas for "his" Star Trek.
You've been here longer than I have, you know they can be scary!I doubt the fans have anything to do with it.
Kruezerman, surely you're not suggesting that I'd shy away from such a golden opportunity to mega-troll the fanboise?
Well I don't know about the capital of FanIdaho, but the fanbois would surely have their heads explode with the shit you'd pull!
Dear God, you should have a crewmember get drunk. On Star Trek. They'd cry to their beloved Goddenberry!
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Was Forbidden Planet the one with the "Id" monster?
I just wanna see what Dennis would've said, have him share his ideas for "his" Star Trek.
You've been here longer than I have, you know they can be scary!I doubt the fans have anything to do with it.
Kruezerman, surely you're not suggesting that I'd shy away from such a golden opportunity to mega-troll the fanboise?
Well I don't know about the capital of FanIdaho, but the fanbois would surely have their heads explode with the shit you'd pull!
Dear God, you should have a crewmember get drunk. On Star Trek. They'd cry to their beloved Goddenberry!
Or maybe have Spock dating Uhura. Teh noes!
Maybe he could make Scotty a mean drunk. In "The Trouble with Tribbles", instead of a gentle ribbing about Chekov drinking vodka, Scotty tells Chekov, "Vodka is Jobby. Only a Jessie drinks it. I bet yer ma's git balls and yer pa loves it." Chekov yells, "Cossack!" gulps his vodka, and goes over the table at Scotty, starting the bar fight. Now that's progressive.
On topic, troubling feelings or anxiety over Trek's 50th anniversary seems somewhat appropriate to me. For some reason, nothing ever seems to go smoothly for this franchise.
Actually, I don't know if I'm looking forward to any real TV celebration of Trek or any other form of one. I'm afraid it will just be full of the usual propaganda about Trek.
I think a tell-all Gene Roddenberry biopic would be fitting for Trek's 50th Anniversary. Finally put to rest the non-sense about "Roddenberry's Vision".
There is a documentary about Roddenberry's son "Trek Nation" that I haven't seen yet. Sounds similar
Well it would still be Trek, the Enterprise exploring space and having staff meetings, just with a change of location. That is one way they could ditch as much of the lore as they want by not mentioning it. I believe this is what Mass Effect series is going to do because every player has a different version of events.
Well it would still be Trek, the Enterprise exploring space and having staff meetings, just with a change of location. That is one way they could ditch as much of the lore as they want by not mentioning it. I believe this is what Mass Effect series is going to do because every player has a different version of events.
There is a documentary about Roddenberry's son "Trek Nation" that I haven't seen yet. Sounds similar
It's just a 90-minute Rod Roddenberry pity party.
I find nothing troubling about the whole thing. I didn't mind the article and I even share of of the writer's opinions, but I'm not worried. The Star Trek series I enjoyed most ended when I was 2 and the part of the movies series that I preferred came to an end in 1991. Doesn't mean I didn't enjoy all the rest, but the version I was most attached to has lonnnnng ended. Do I need a 2 hour special about the series? Nope. It won't tell me much of what I don't already know and it would just push more inaccurate bullshit anyway.
Do I need another home video release of the series? Nope. Not unless the sound mix is fixed, but that'll never happen, so nope.
Do I need cameos in the next movie? Nope, the surviving actors no long look or sound or act anything like they used to.
What do I want from the next movie? Eh, I want it to be good. Actually, if I had any say at all (bwa hahaha!) I'd only change how Kirk is portrayed, cut back on the "frat boy antics" and tone down the over the top humor, but keep the great character quips. Actually, as little less fan service would be great. I felt that STID tried to please fans a bit too much. Go back to really shaking things up and being unpredictable. Use the clean slate and the changed timeline more, rather than name dropping and re-staging key moments from another film. As much as JTK is my favorite character, if they didn't use the super blood and actually kept Kirk dead, THAT would have been a kick ass shock that would have made it more meaningful.
Otherwise, I'm fine with a fast paced, fun, humorous action adventure in space with a little something to say. It's not "my" Star Trek, but then again, Star Trek was never "mine."
Whatever they want to do is fine. I'm confident that whatever the new folks involved bring us will be on par with what we've been getting. Hopefully better, but if I don't like it, I've got tons of other stuff to do...
Do I need another home video release of the series? Nope. Not unless the sound mix is fixed, but that'll never happen, so nope.
Do I need cameos in the next movie? Nope, the surviving actors no long look or sound or act anything like they used to.
What do I want from the next movie? Eh, I want it to be good. Actually, if I had any say at all (bwa hahaha!) I'd only change how Kirk is portrayed, cut back on the "frat boy antics" and tone down the over the top humor, but keep the great character quips. Actually, as little less fan service would be great. I felt that STID tried to please fans a bit too much. Go back to really shaking things up and being unpredictable. Use the clean slate and the changed timeline more, rather than name dropping and re-staging key moments from another film. As much as JTK is my favorite character, if they didn't use the super blood and actually kept Kirk dead, THAT would have been a kick ass shock that would have made it more meaningful.
Otherwise, I'm fine with a fast paced, fun, humorous action adventure in space with a little something to say. It's not "my" Star Trek, but then again, Star Trek was never "mine."
Whatever they want to do is fine. I'm confident that whatever the new folks involved bring us will be on par with what we've been getting. Hopefully better, but if I don't like it, I've got tons of other stuff to do...
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I'd watch it.
I don't have any worries at this point. Looking forward to the third film.
726 episodes of 6 tv series
12 (soon to be 13 movies)
Dozens of books
At what point do we say, "you know, I think we've done what we can with this series?"
12 (soon to be 13 movies)
Dozens of books
At what point do we say, "you know, I think we've done what we can with this series?"
Given Gene's appetites, maybe Cushman should direct.
I'd watch it.
Which is why I'm more than happy with a new movie every few years and the occasional novel. I'm rereading Peter David's Q, Squared currently.
Given Gene's appetites, maybe Cushman should direct.Like!
I'd watch it.
I don't think we're done yet. Someone, at some point, will come along with an idea that will seem fresh. I'd love to see a new animated series out there. Anyway, as you say, there is certainly a lot of material out there to keep us busy until that happens.
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