Parks and Reckoning: the final season
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I'm in total agreement with you. I feel like they ran the perfect finale then for no reason tacked on another season. What is this, Babylon 5?
It doesn't make sense to me that Leslie would bear a grudge for two years. The Leslie we know would have fumed at Ron for a few days then come to her senses. Also, the episodes just weren't funny. It was obvious the moment a cake was rolled out that Leslie was going to fall into it somehow. And as great villains Jeremy Jamm and Tammy 1 have been, it seems a huge contrived stretch to put them together.
Also surprised not to see some throwaway lines about getting texts from Ann.
It doesn't make sense to me that Leslie would bear a grudge for two years. The Leslie we know would have fumed at Ron for a few days then come to her senses. Also, the episodes just weren't funny. It was obvious the moment a cake was rolled out that Leslie was going to fall into it somehow. And as great villains Jeremy Jamm and Tammy 1 have been, it seems a huge contrived stretch to put them together.
Also surprised not to see some throwaway lines about getting texts from Ann.
The time travel element is delightful.
Kevin James as Jason Bourne?
#### YEAH!
Kevin James as Jason Bourne?
#### YEAH!
That I agree with. And I think the writers did the Apple design team's work for them for the next two years. Those fold up clear 3d pads were awesome.
I'm not sure if I can ever get used to the idea of Leslie and Ron hating each other. Ron was Leslie's confidant all series and now, granted 2 years into the future, they are competitors? In fact, in the last few seasons Leslie has turned from that eternal optimist who was always happy and did whatever it took for the community to just this nasty unlikeable person.
Thank god for Tom and Andy, because they really are the best characters so far. Ben and April are decent too.
Thank god for Tom and Andy, because they really are the best characters so far. Ben and April are decent too.
I don't see Ron staying angry at Leslie, either, especially the Ron we saw develop last year after being in a loving, stable relationship with Diane.
Though, Ron's line about bangs was classic Swanson!
It would be great if, since Ben got GRZZLE to give free WiFi to Pawnee and they seem to have taken a liking to the town, if Ann was out of touch and still on Facebook with an iPhone 8.
I like it so far.
The scene where they are de-programming Jamm at the cabin had me laughing so hard my wife came in from the other room to see what I was going on about.
I'm liking it, too.
Poehler smacking the
out of Jamm was hilarious. Also her Tammy impression was brilliant.
Great episodes tonight. Loved the scenes with Ben and Terry in the first but I'm really glad the Leslie and Ron are enemies storyline did not last long. I loved how they handled it and it was true Parks and Rec. I do wonder though, what happened to Diana and the kids. Ok so Lucie Lawless is a hard get I know that but are Ron and Diana still together? Did I forget a storyline from the finale? I would love for her to return this season.
Yeah, I'm glad they ended the Leslie and Ron feud. It would have been a bummer to have them only reconcile in the finale, and to keep forcing their friends into awkward competition and underhandedness. Now I'm curious to see how they resolve their situation with the opposing bids; if they decide to continue competing in a friendly manner or if they come up with some kind of compromise.
Ben's descent into notary Hell with Gary/Jerry/Larry/Terry was hilarious, the embarrassing President Harrison Museum with the "What if he'd worn a coat?" alternate histories where The Wire swept the Emmy's and "Other things that were famous for a month" exhibits were awesome, and Leslie and Ron's locked room confrontation struck the right ratio of comedy to poignancy that this show does so well.
The silly little glimpses into the "distant" future of 2017 are great, as well. Elton John bought Chick-fil-A.
I was a little worried after the first episode(s), but this pair brought the show back to form.
Ben's descent into notary Hell with Gary/Jerry/Larry/Terry was hilarious, the embarrassing President Harrison Museum with the "What if he'd worn a coat?" alternate histories where The Wire swept the Emmy's and "Other things that were famous for a month" exhibits were awesome, and Leslie and Ron's locked room confrontation struck the right ratio of comedy to poignancy that this show does so well.
The silly little glimpses into the "distant" future of 2017 are great, as well. Elton John bought Chick-fil-A.
I was a little worried after the first episode(s), but this pair brought the show back to form.
This weeks episode showed some improvement, but it's still off kilter to me. I thought by Leslie's reasons for hating Ron were fairly in character but Ron mad at Leslie because he wanted to ask her for a federal job wasn't so much. They could've streamlined things and kept them more in character if they'd just just had Ron going to tell her he was starting his own company and she never got back to him.
By the way while I realize the show is essentially a fantasy of how government could work, I find it interesting that all this land they're fighting over is supposedly in pawnee city limits. How big is this city?
More to the point, and I doubt that they have the guts to run with this, but it could be a clever twist that Leslie, by taking all this extremely valuable land off the tax rolls, essentially bankrupts the city again.
By the way while I realize the show is essentially a fantasy of how government could work, I find it interesting that all this land they're fighting over is supposedly in pawnee city limits. How big is this city?
More to the point, and I doubt that they have the guts to run with this, but it could be a clever twist that Leslie, by taking all this extremely valuable land off the tax rolls, essentially bankrupts the city again.
To dork out for a moment, while the city limits are very different, the street map of Pawnee was based on Christchurch, New Zealand, so if you go by that, it's 551 square miles of territory, of which 234 square miles are urban. So you could potentially have up to a 317 square mile national park (which would make it slightly larger than Shenandoah National Park in Virginia), but it's probably significantly smaller than that. The smallest national park is Hot Springs, Arkansas, at 9.26 square miles.
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The S1 opening credits showed a mirrored street map of the city of Muncie, Indiana. Muncie is the site of Jerry's vacation home.
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Here's the map of the city:
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Source: http://www.reddit.com/r/PandR/comments/1r1q0o/i_just_discovered_i_am_living_in_virtual_pawnee/
All of this takes place before Pawnee merged with Eagleton however, up in the northwest corner, so Pawnee is even bigger now.
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That is some right impressive dorking out there... excellent research. But just eyeballing the map of Pawnee "legend," it looks to me like it's closer to five or six miles across and five miles high at the widest points. That puts it a bit smaller than, say, a Rochester, NY (37 sq miles) (and probably not much different with Eagleton annexed).
Now, I fully concede that the unincroporated area around the city could be big enough to hold the park but the conceit here is that the park is in the incorporated area.
I always found it amusing on the show that the joke is supposed to be (or at least was for most of the show) that Pawnee is sort of a rundown, trashy city, but they always manage to have a rich music scene, cool festivals, huge parks, a variety of interesting businesses, and so forth, and the national park just seemed to be another extension of that. It just manifests whatever extension of the city is necessary to fit the needs of the story.
It's sort of like the phenomenon from Friends and other shows of characters living in the city who are identified as poor yet have attractive upper middle class homes.
It's sort of like the phenomenon from Friends and other shows of characters living in the city who are identified as poor yet have attractive upper middle class homes.
Except most of those things are credited to Leslie. I figure if she never existed, Pawnee would just be the rundown, trashy city you mentioned.
I just watched the first episode of the season again, and it turns out they actually mention the size of the Newport property and potential Grizzle HQ/national park during the announcement. It's 25 square miles centering around Lake Pawnee, so it's fairly small.
Actually in comparison to the city itself it may be about the same size or only slightly smaller. And since the park is supposed to be
IN the city limits that would have the effect of turning nearly the entire city into a park...which, now that I think of it, might be Leslie's while plan
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