It will be a Manufactured Soul and Disk Operating System, aka MS-DOS.
The scientist planning to upload his brain to a COMPUTER
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I suspect we'll figure out how to make AIs that are categorically smarter than humans well before we figure out how to replicate human minds in computers. Really, we probably never will figure out how to do that- the AIs we create will.
Think, for example, about flight. Very early on, people thought the easiest way to achieve flight was to emulate the flight of birds. We still today haven't really managed to emulate the flight of bird, but we've had airplanes for a long time. The human mind is very, very, complex, and most of that complexity is stuff that wouldn't be advantageous, or even usable, in an AI, so if it ever is replicated in a computer, it will probably be a novelty completed by hobbyists many decades after we have AIs that are capable of much more.
Think, for example, about flight. Very early on, people thought the easiest way to achieve flight was to emulate the flight of birds. We still today haven't really managed to emulate the flight of bird, but we've had airplanes for a long time. The human mind is very, very, complex, and most of that complexity is stuff that wouldn't be advantageous, or even usable, in an AI, so if it ever is replicated in a computer, it will probably be a novelty completed by hobbyists many decades after we have AIs that are capable of much more.
Yeah, that was what I was thinking too... The sentence "We organise workshops and conferences where interested parties can exchange ideas, network with others, and keep updated on the latest developments in the field'" at the end of the article is the "call to action" as they call it in marketing. That's the business he is actually in I suspect- selling seats at "conferences" and conducting "workshops" more than actual science.
That's just a guess though. Could be the guy is a totally legit scientist for all I know.
I'm convinced that within my lifetime there will be a mind upload cult that commits suicide trying to upload themselves.
If we're lucky, might just get rid of a few of them.
I wish there was a like button for this forum. That is probably so true, it isn't even funny.
I remember this one cult that committed suicide because they thought the world was going to end, and they hoped to 'upload' themselves to a passing starship.
Considering that the world didn't end, they most likely found themselves all in the world-here-after.
I would. In a heartbeat. And I would name my digital copies "Lazy Eddie", "Wavy Eddie" and "Sane Eddie." We would make a kickass fleet in STO and the Halo 5 multiplayer community would learn to fear our wrath. There's also about a million little side projects I've always wanted to tackle but never have time for; Lazy Eddie would tackle most of those.
"Spread out!" (Boink!) "Whoo-whoo-whoo-whoo-whoo!"
Then it wouldn't be only your personal information at risk to hackers. Your person information might be kidnapped, too! Talk about identity theft!
Actually you would be *a* game.
And who would want to be trapped in Tetris anyway? All those blocks falling on your head would HURT.
I think consciousness is the process of building. I believe that a human is comprised of many singular microbial that are controlled to perform a function by what are called mitochondria. The functions of the mitochondria would be controlled by the sub-conscious of the brain where the information highway stays open all the time relaying information back and forth between the brain and the mitochondria to perform functions like breathing, processing of food etc. all functions that would take forever for the conscious brain to internalize and deal with thus making the human body some what of a blob because it would have to think about breathing, digesting food, getting rid of food, etc. that would take a lot of thought processing to do by the conscious brain meaning we wouldn't be able to do very much of anything.
So while the subconscious is performing all of the functions that would otherwise render us immobile the consciousness provides the sub conscious mind with energy by eating and making certain that the sub consciousness is protected. With the arms and legs moving about gathering food for the subconscious mind the conscious mind soon realized that that if it placed rocks on top of rocks in circle and then some large leaves over those rocks that the image before them would keep the water off of them.
Until at least the water became to much for the leaves to hold and collapsed on the human getting them all wet again. The sub conscious mind then lent help to the conscious mind and said add sticks here and here like we did with the bones of this body to make the system more rigid. The conscious mind did so and the next time it rained the large leaf ceiling didn't collapse but kept the water off of the human.
Spontaneous mechanical evolution will never happen in the form of computers because there are not any biological necessities that are part of the computer other than electricity.
Computers don't have the ability to produce new offspring which would pass the DNA of the parent to the next child as well as being able to teach the child. The base for all life regardless of whether or not the life is carbon or silicate based is the ability of the life to be able to produce offspring.
Perhaps you mean midichlorians, young padawan? The farce is strong in this one.
I thought that using a time telegraph to ask long-dead scientists on subject that they don't yet know about was forbidden by the Temporal Prime Directive. Besides, even if you gave them a background on microbes and mitochondria, it will just sound like nanites and midichlorians to them and see what you end up with.
Why would you eat and drink if you were uploaded? There's more to life than just food, especially if you were digital and no longer had any need to eat or drink. You could spend the rest eternity recreating Tron and never stop for a break since you would never get tired.
Personally I'd upload myself if I got the chance. Everybody dies, but having a back-up of yourself would be great. Why would anyone even be bothered by the idea?
http://www.trekbbs.com/showpost.php?p=10572151&postcount=104
A link to a book that discusses this topic more thoroughly and includes interested parties from science, philosophy, etc.
A link to a book that discusses this topic more thoroughly and includes interested parties from science, philosophy, etc.
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Possibly not, but it takes researchers like this to do it, rather than people who say it can't be done. Actually, brain uploading is one of the major aspects of transhumanist tech that I consider most likely...in fact, it will probably occur before 2035. This article is significant because it it states his directives rather than the more usual general goals.
This story appeared in other sites.
Yes of course you don't see the point, you have the rather normal, ingrained in-the-box thinking most people have based on limited human lifespans and limited history to make such lifespans acceptable (not just religion but that's a major component). By the time we get to uploading in a few decades, believe me, you'd think of all sorts of reasons to stay alive.
..and yes, the best science might lead to ethical, philosophical discussions because of the huge implications.
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Uploading in a few decades? That's an...optimistic viewpoint. Normal, ingrained-in-the-box thinking because of one opposing viewpoint? That's a...very narrow viewpoint.
The best science of course has ethical implications, but the best science is still done by scientists. Really.
If this story appeared in other sites, providing links is the proper thing to do.
The best science of course has ethical implications, but the best science is still done by scientists. Really.
If this story appeared in other sites, providing links is the proper thing to do.
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