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Justin Lin is directing Star Trek XIII

People are still bitching about lens flares? That's still a thing? Really?

To be fair, it's pretty bad use of lens flare. I think its the least of the films' problems, but I can see why folks get so irritated by how they're excessively used. Even Abrams himself has admitted that he went too far and had to bring in ILM to fix shots.
 
It's like thinking the world is flat because all you've seen is your hometown, ignoring or even dismissing the much larger and older round world out there, and then covering your ears when the rest of your hometown tells you that there's so more out there ...

Except my position was flexible, and I brought up points to explore the issue, rather than declaring my own opinion the equivalent to the earth being round and any other idea heresy. And now I'll let the subject drop and say I don't mind the lens flares one bit. :techman:
 
Don't care about the lens flares one way or the other.

Me neither. I don't understand the hate against them.

Honestly, I had no idea what a "lens flare" was until people starting griping about them on-line. I'd seen the first movie twice at that point and had no idea what people were talking about. I didn't even notice any "lens flares."
 
Please tell me you're joking.


My thought exactly. Talk about overreaching...!

And just what I said before, too..

If you feel Trek is such a trifle, why do you dedicate so much of your time to hang out and post on a fan-forum like this?
If you feel nuTrek is such a trifle, why do you dedicate so much of your time to hang out and post on a fan-forum like this?


And, why do you feel the constant need to attack it all of the time? Why not just live and let live and accept it as a fait acompli, and find something else to see (like the fan productions?)
 
Don't care about the lens flares one way or the other.

Me neither. I don't understand the hate against them.

Honestly, I had no idea what a "lens flare" was until people starting griping about them on-line. I'd seen the first movie twice at that point and had no idea what people were talking about. I didn't even notice any "lens flares."

True, they were very hard to spot. Somebody brought up this "lens flare" thing in a conversation and I was like "what is this 'lens flare' you speak of? You can you 'flare' the 'lens'???"


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In the SW universe the motivation makes total sense, because Force visions are a real thing and dark side Force powers exist.

Sorry, I don't see how force visions and the dark side automatically make contradictory motivations make sense.

What "contradictory motivations"? The motivation Lucas used and the one that some people wanted him to use instead?

We've been through this before. The one he began filming with, and the one he ended filming with.

Ok at this point we're running in circles, and getting off-topic to boot.
 
Don't care about the lens flares one way or the other.

Me neither. I don't understand the hate against them.

Honestly, I had no idea what a "lens flare" was until people starting griping about them on-line. I'd seen the first movie twice at that point and had no idea what people were talking about. I didn't even notice any "lens flares."

I think that even before the movies, lens flares were known sometimes as a hasty design element. You'd see a lot of those websites in the late 90s that had the stock Photoshop flare that just looked awful. That doesn't mean they couldn't be used appropriately, but they kinda gained a stigma, perhaps one that Trek nerds who use Photoshop had become familiar with.

Rather than say whether they're good or bad, I'm more interested in how much Lin will embrace them. I'm curious about how his style will affect the movie in general.
 
The one he began filming with,

You mean the one that doesn't make much sense seeing as the whole confrontation between Windu and Palpatine was started when Palpatine flat out told Anakin that he was the Sith Lord who they've been chasing for the past 3 years and was behind the Clone Wars seeing as he was Dooku's boss. So making it about the Jedi overthrowing Palpatine is problematic since they should be locking up the freaking big bad.
 
The one he began filming with,

You mean the one that doesn't make much sense seeing as the whole confrontation between Windu and Palpatine was started when Palpatine flat out told Anakin that he was the Sith Lord who they've been chasing for the past 3 years and was behind the Clone Wars seeing as he was Dooku's boss. So making it about the Jedi overthrowing Palpatine is problematic since they should be locking up the freaking big bad.

Yes, that one. No much makes sense about the motivations of Anakin in that trilogy.

Say, isn't this a Star Trek forum? I coulda sworn...

:p

Really ? I thought it was mainly about bickering, like all the other forums. ;)
 
Sorry, I don't see how force visions and the dark side automatically make contradictory motivations make sense.

What "contradictory motivations"? The motivation Lucas used and the one that some people wanted him to use instead?

We've been through this before. The one he began filming with, and the one he ended filming with.

The one he began filming with is irrelevant. There is no point in pointing out "contradiction" between the two since in the end one wasn't used. What doesn't make sense about the one he ended filming with?
 
The one he began filming with is irrelevant. There is no point in pointing out "contradiction" between the two since in the end one wasn't used. What doesn't make sense about the one he ended filming with?

Set, the problem we've been discussing is that TWO were used, not just one. That's the thing. He didn't just ditch one for the other entirely.
 
The "hook" that was the basis for the turn was just one. That was the one that ended up being of central importance. ( And, as if by coincidence, it happened to have been set up by events in the prior films. ) That the character may have had additional personal motivations is not a problem. In other words, people with issues don't tend to have just the one issue.
 
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