Justin Lin is directing Star Trek XIII

[Amaris]

I'm reading a Facebook post by the Enterprise D bridge guys, about comparing the prime universe movies, and the Abrams films, and just reading it tells me the level of self deception with some of these people is off the scale.

It's this image:

You should read the responses. I swear it's like a Jonestown cult in places. I said it before, and I'll say it again: Disliking the movie is fine. People have different tastes. It's the slavish devotion, the denunciation of the sinner, the false doctrine, and that no TRUE devotee of Roddenberry (PBUH) would like J.J. Bink's fake-Trek.

 

[BillJ]

You should read the responses. I swear it's like a Jonestown cult in places.

It is starting to get silly.

They are also incredibly classy:

Para Mobius: If JJ caught on fire would not piss on him or Orci if was on a Star Trek shoot.... i will forward my request to all fans to this site so you can understand my stance.

 

[Amaris]

You should read the responses. I swear it's like a Jonestown cult in places.

It is starting to get silly.

Indeed it is. When you start getting into true visions and nobility, you're starting a religion, not watching a television show or series of movies.

They are also incredibly classy:

Para Mobius: If JJ caught on fire would not piss on him or Orci if was on a Star Trek shoot.... i will forward my request to all fans to this site so you can understand my stance.

Jesus Christ!

 

[CorporalClegg]

That is sick. The guy needs help.

And what did you mean by "Enterprise D bridge guys"? Did you mean the actors wrote that?

 

[BillJ]

That is sick. The guy needs help.

And what did you mean by "Enterprise D bridge guys"? Did you mean the actors wrote that?

Probably the people restoring the sets?

I'd like to see a link...

 

[CorporalClegg]

Yeah. I was confused because I couldn't imagine any of the actors saying something like that--especially since Frakes, Wheaton, and Burton are on record saying they love nuTrek.

 

[Amaris]

That is sick. The guy needs help.

And what did you mean by "Enterprise D bridge guys"? Did you mean the actors wrote that?

That is sick. The guy needs help.

And what did you mean by "Enterprise D bridge guys"? Did you mean the actors wrote that?

Probably the people restoring the sets?

I'd like to see a link...

Sure! I'll link to their page, since I don't know if there are privacy concerns about linking directly to the post itself.

https://www.facebook.com/TheNewStarship

As of this post, you'll see the image, to which I indicated earlier, at the top of the page.

 

[SalvorHardin]

They are also incredibly classy:

Para Mobius: If JJ caught on fire would not piss on him or Orci if was on a Star Trek shoot.... i will forward my request to all fans to this site so you can understand my stance.

This deranged lunatic & his followers need some serious professional help.

 

[BillJ]

That is sick. The guy needs help.

And what did you mean by "Enterprise D bridge guys"? Did you mean the actors wrote that?

That is sick. The guy needs help.

And what did you mean by "Enterprise D bridge guys"? Did you mean the actors wrote that?

Probably the people restoring the sets?

I'd like to see a link...

Sure! I'll link to their page, since I don't know if there are privacy concerns about linking directly to the post itself.

https://www.facebook.com/TheNewStarship

As of this post, you'll see the image, to which I indicated earlier, at the top of the page.

Thanks, J.!

 

[SalvorHardin]

That is sick. The guy needs help.

And what did you mean by "Enterprise D bridge guys"? Did you mean the actors wrote that?

That is sick. The guy needs help.

And what did you mean by "Enterprise D bridge guys"? Did you mean the actors wrote that?

Probably the people restoring the sets?

I'd like to see a link...

Sure! I'll link to their page, since I don't know if there are privacy concerns about linking directly to the post itself.

https://www.facebook.com/TheNewStarship

As of this post, you'll see the image, to which I indicated earlier, at the top of the page.

"This is not to say we agree with this..."
Yeah, sure they don't.

 

[Amaris]

Thanks, J.!

You're welcome!

"This is not to say we agree with this..."
Yeah, sure they don't.

Oh, I know. They've been collectively harping on this stuff for months, but suddenly they're not saying? Pfft.

 

[CorporalClegg]

I gave J.'s excellent comment a like.

 

[Amaris]

I gave J.'s excellent comment a like.

Thanks!

This is why Galaxy Quest is considered great Star Trek. It's a meta example of the fandom in every way. Guy Fleegman may be my hero, after the great Alexander Dane, of course.

Anyway, it's just so clear that these people have deceived themselves into a cycle of wishful thinking. Star Trek's not a poppy show about pewpewpew, it's a show about civic change, and deep social commentary! Yeah! And it's also about trailblazing humanity's future! I mean, look at what J.J. Abrams did! He made Kirk into a fistfighting, womanizing, fly-by-the-seat-of-his-pants character! He's practically a cowboy! Roddenberry would be rolling in his grave!

 

[Sindatur]

I gave J.'s excellent comment a like.

Thanks!

This is why Galaxy Quest is considered great Star Trek. It's a meta example of the fandom in every way. Guy Fleegman may be my hero, after the great Alexander Dane, of course.

Anyway, it's just so clear that these people have deceived themselves into a cycle of wishful thinking. Star Trek's not a poppy show about pewpewpew, it's a show about civic change, and deep social commentary! Yeah! And it's also about trailblazing humanity's future! I mean, look at what J.J. Abrams did! He made Kirk into a fistfighting, womanizing, fly-by-the-seat-of-his-pants character! He's practically a cowboy! Roddenberry would be rolling in his grave!

I remember Janeway saying many of those same things about Kirk, and even saying he would be tossed out of "today's" Starfleet

 

[Amaris]

I gave J.'s excellent comment a like.

Thanks!

This is why Galaxy Quest is considered great Star Trek. It's a meta example of the fandom in every way. Guy Fleegman may be my hero, after the great Alexander Dane, of course.

Anyway, it's just so clear that these people have deceived themselves into a cycle of wishful thinking. Star Trek's not a poppy show about pewpewpew, it's a show about civic change, and deep social commentary! Yeah! And it's also about trailblazing humanity's future! I mean, look at what J.J. Abrams did! He made Kirk into a fistfighting, womanizing, fly-by-the-seat-of-his-pants character! He's practically a cowboy! Roddenberry would be rolling in his grave!

I remember Janeway saying many of those same things about Kirk, and even saying he would be tossed out of "today's" Starfleet

Indeed. Really, it depends upon what kind of flavor of Trek you want. I started out on TOS as a kid, and so the new movies are an extension of that era, with the benefit of modern technologies and sensibilities to make it more fully realized. Yet I also enjoy TAS, TNG, DS9, VOY, and ENT. This need to divide people into Real True™ and Obviously Fake™ is absurd. You can like all of it and be a fan, or only like one part of it, and be a fan.

People not liking the Abrams films? Cool with me, to each their own. Making up things about J.J. or the film itself in order to denigrate other fans? Now there's a problem. I also don't like outright lying, or purposeful ignorance. There are some who mistake my need to correct major misconceptions about a film as being against people who dislike the film, and it just isn't so.

 

[Cinema Geekly]

I'm reading a Facebook post by the Enterprise D bridge guys, about comparing the prime universe movies, and the Abrams films, and just reading it tells me the level of self deception with some of these people is off the scale.

It's this image:

You should read the responses. I swear it's like a Jonestown cult in places. I said it before, and I'll say it again: Disliking the movie is fine. People have different tastes. It's the slavish devotion, the denunciation of the sinner, the false doctrine, and that no TRUE devotee of Roddenberry (PBUH) would like J.J. Bink's fake-Trek.

 

[iguana_tonante]

I mean, it's clear who is the winner.

Roddenberry's Trek is pure and noble blue. JJ Abram's Trek's is crappy brown.

How could it be easier than this?

 

[Set Harth]

the level of self deception with some of these people is off the scale.

I guess if people want to outright deny the existence of the social commentary in Abrams' Trek films, no amount of shoving it under their noses will make any difference.

 

[Amaris]

^ That's true. You know what the list reminds me of? Those compare/contrast charts between Creationism and Evolution that I used to see all of the time. One side would have a beatific, shiny font that said "Creationism", while the other side of the chart would have a frumpy font with "Evolutionism" in some kind of ugly color, and the list following an utterly nonsensical imbalance of "virtues".

 

[Ovation]

In 2016, the 3rd movie must ensure everyone in the principal cast of 7 has more meaningful roles.

Hell no. If it fits naturally with the story, fine. But treating the second and third stringers as "equals" out of some sense of obligation, complete with line counts and time on screen charts to ensure parity for "the Big Seven"? Again, hell no!