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Justin Lin is directing Star Trek XIII

In terms of a franchise crossover, they could do it so whoever from the TNG crew (& possibly DS9/Voyager characters) appears are from this timeline's future. And at least one ENT person and his dog has already been referenced. Admiral Archer just turns out like Cooper from Interstellar, who went through some weird time warp, while everyone on Earth got old or died. Nimoy's already there. That just leaves a Shatner surprise.
 
I didn't like that Into Darkness had to use Khan, and I especially didn't like that it recast him with a white actor when Bollywood has no shortage of mega talents on the cusp of international stardom. It seems like something Justin Lin wouldn't have put up with, given his track record. At least if they went with Benicio Del Toro, it would have been a lateral move. That said the movie was okay for what it was.

My main thing is that I wish that Gravity and Interstellar would influence Trek back in a direction more towards the awe of science and lack of villains that say Star Trek IV had. I want to see a movie where the crew solves the problem, especially with the help of some strangers, without a bad guy in sight. If they committed to making a movie without any death, though perhaps the danger of death, then I think that could send them in that direction.
 
ChristopherPike said:
In terms of a franchise crossover, they could do it so whoever from the TNG crew (& possibly DS9/Voyager characters) appears are from this timeline's future.
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let's not. would love to see any of those characters in a new adventure in their timelines, but to quote another "franchise", "don't cross the streams!"

...and while we're at it, here's a hashtag: #leaveoutShatner

:devil:
 
Eric Cheung said:
I didn't like that Into Darkness had to use Khan, and I especially didn't like that it recast him with a white actor when Bollywood has no shortage of mega talents on the cusp of international stardom. It seems like something Justin Lin wouldn't have put up with, given his track record. At least if they went with Benicio Del Toro, it would have been a lateral move. That said the movie was okay for what it was.
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I think Cumberbatch was put in the movie for marketing reasons. Sherlock is very popular internationally, especially in China. Benedict is a huge worldwide star with a following. Casting him in STID may have helped entice international viewers to ST that normally wouldn't have given it a chance.

I doubt Lin would have been able to successfully fight with the studio over it. Money rules the day.

Having said that, one of the reasons Lin's F&F did so well is because it was popular with minorities, younger viewers, and women, while most of STID's viewers were adult aged white males, so it would make sense to cast a new main character that's a minority.

Eric Cheung said:
My main thing is that I wish that Gravity and Interstellar would influence Trek back in a direction more towards the awe of science and lack of villains that say Star Trek IV had.
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I absolutely agree, but it's not going to happen. ST3 is going to be a big dumb action movie. Just like STID & F&F. If it was going to be some sort of cerebral science fiction piece they wouldn't have chosen Lin.
 
johnjm22 said:
Eric Cheung said:
I didn't like that Into Darkness had to use Khan, and I especially didn't like that it recast him with a white actor when Bollywood has no shortage of mega talents on the cusp of international stardom. It seems like something Justin Lin wouldn't have put up with, given his track record. At least if they went with Benicio Del Toro, it would have been a lateral move. That said the movie was okay for what it was.
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I think Cumberbatch was put in the movie for marketing reasons. Sherlock is very popular internationally, especially in China. Benedict is a huge worldwide star with a following. Casting him in STID may have helped entice international viewers to ST that normally wouldn't have given it a chance.
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Having Cumberbatch on board certainly didn't hurt, from a marketing standpoint, but I think timing also played a significant part.

The filmmakers had already been in talks with several actors for the role, including Del Toro, and each time came away empty, due to issues with scheduling, money, whatever. With two weeks to go before principal photography was to begin, the part was still unfilled, but someone got word that BC was available, interested in doing Trek, and willing to work for what they could afford to pay him. If I recall it right, they did the audition over the phone and were able to begin filming on schedule.
 
I'll always found the Del Toro thing kinda baffling. "Well, Ricardo Montalban was Mexican, even if Khan wasn't, so . . . ."
 
BDT would've been around the same age as RM in Space Seed (so would Javier Bardem but he was doing Skyfall - pity as hed have been great)
 
I remember people suggesting Antonio Banderas, which also seemed to be a case of people missing the distinction between Montalban's ethnicity and Khan's.

At the time, I was lobbying for Naveen Andrews, although Cumberbatch was suitably charismatic in the role.
 
Greg Cox said:
I'll always found the Del Toro thing kinda baffling. "Well, Ricardo Montalban was Mexican, even if Khan wasn't, so . . . ."
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That did seem to be the angle they had on it for a while; all three of the actors reported as being considered for the role were Hispanic. And then...
 
Eric Cheung said:
It should also be noted that he's the first non-white director to helm a Star Trek film. That's a pretty big deal, especially after the despicable whitewashing of Khan in the previous film. There are experiences at play there that may potentially give the film some added perspective. Check out this profile in Variety.
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Wouldn't that have been true with Orci as well, since he's Hispanic?
 
Greg Cox said:
I remember people suggesting Antonio Banderas, which also seemed to be a case of people missing the distinction between Montalban's ethnicity and Khan's.

At the time, I was lobbying for Naveen Andrews, although Cumberbatch was suitably charismatic in the role.
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I think Cumberbatch brought a lot of menace to the role and the right amount of charm.

I understand the annoyance at the "whitewashing" of Khan, but I took it as S31 genetically engineering him again to conceal is background. Seeing as how Kirk identified him via picture in "Space Seed" this is not exactly a bad idea.
 
Greg Cox said:
I remember people suggesting Antonio Banderas, which also seemed to be a case of people missing the distinction between Montalban's ethnicity and Khan's.

At the time, I was lobbying for Naveen Andrews, although Cumberbatch was suitably charismatic in the role.
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Naveen Andrews would have been my first choice as well, though I was perfectly fine with Cumberbatch.
 
It really didn't matter who played Khan as he appeared in Into Darkness. It wasn't a very well-written character.
 
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