Fantastic Four reboot-- Casting, Rumors, Pix, ect;

Which lesser characters were those? Thor, Iron Man and Captain America are on Marvel's A list. The Guardians of the Galaxy are the only "lesser characters" that Marvel has done great things with. The new round of films are the ones that might prove the point. Ant Man, the Inhumans and Doctor Strange pretty much define "lesser characters".

 

I would not consider the FF to be A List, not since the Kirby/Lee days. I really liked the Hickman run but I would not consider them to be large in the uninformed public's eyes.

 

I would disagree. All three characters have headlined successful books for decades with many memorable runs by respected creators. The FF and Spidey were Marvel's flagship characters who set the tone for the Marvel Age, so yeah they're A list. Hulk is also on that list too. The X-Men became A list characters, but were a distant third and even fourth in Marvel team books behind the FF, the Avengers and possibly the Defenders originally. They're the only one of that group to be canceled in their first decade. The new version from the late 70s began the Xmens rise to A list status and the film franchise.

 

I think they're talking about public perception/awareness of people who don't read comic books.

 

The late 90s Iron Man and FF toons were syndicated, airing as the ''Marvel Action Hour'' or some such title, and didn't air on Fox Kids.
There was also an Avengers United They Stand series that ran on Fox Kids, but I never saw it as the block was no longer available in my area due to affiliate station changes at the time.

 

Count yourself lucky. It was widely panned for focusing on secondary characters and for redesigning the costumes into silly, toyetic armor.

There was also a Silver Surfer cartoon on Fox (?) from the producers of X-Men, but it only ran for one season.

 

^ Oh god those horrible sentai morphing scenes!
[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIUe6psX-KM[/yt]


Avengers United They Stand sucked but I was digging the Silver Surfer show. They both got cancelled; along with Spider-Man Unlimited because Marvel went bankrupt.

 

Well, we were talking about who had a great gallery of villains. Wonder Woman and Superman have a very short list... once you get past Lex, Brianiac and Zod... And Wonder Woman, can anyone name a supervillian for Wonder Woman? I got Cheetah and that's about it.

Perhaps in the cinema, but, on TV? Arrow and the Flash are doing excellent versions of the villains.

Grodd, in the comics, is a fantastic villain, even with his Silver Age origins. He's going to be on the Flash TV show, I eagerly await how they do it.

 

The IM and FF cartoons also weren't all that good. Well, I'm splitting the difference: the first seasons of both shows were mind-bogglingly awful, while the second seasons -- completely revamped with new creative teams -- were decent, but still mediocre in comparison to the Fox Kids Marvel shows.

There was actually a pseudo-crossover, in that when Iron Man and War Machine appeared on Spider-Man, they were played by the actors who played them on the syndicated show, Robert Hays and James Avery (although Avery had previously been replaced by Dorian Harewood on the IM show itself). However, when the Fantastic Four later appeared on Spider-Man, only Johnny Storm was played an actor from the syndicated show.

There's also a weird relationship between the Marvel Action Hour shows and the subsequent UPN Hulk series from the same producers. FF and IM were in continuity with each other, and they both had Hulk guest episodes as backdoor pilots for the Hulk series (albeit with Ron Perlman playing Banner and the Hulk, roles played by Neal McDonough and Lou Ferrigno in the series). But while the Hulk series that followed was in continuity with the FF Hulk episode (and a loose sequel to it), it completely contradicted the IM Hulk episode.

The cliffhanger on the Silver Surfer series involved Thanos activating a weapon that was in the process of destroying the universe when the episode ended. So I just assume he succeeded.

 

The first 8 episodes of season two were written; the show only died because of a legal dispute between Marvel and Saban. Here's a link to the season two premiere that resolved the cliffhanger:

http://tvwriter.net/?page_id=987

 

Well, this should come as a surprise to absolutely no one-- Fox is ordering expensive reshoots because they feel the movie is "a mess".

This part is particularly gratifying...

...as I've been saying that for a long time now.

 

The United We Stand cartoon also had the same story editor as X-Men the Animated Series. He is also well known for the Goliath Chronicles.

 

I saw Whiplash last night. Miles Teller was very good and I could totally see him as Spider-man. But just not seeing him as Reed, though admittedly I'm not familiar with the Ultimate version of the FF.

 

The "expensive" reshoots are good news. If the film still bombs after throwing even more money at it, chances would be very good that Fox will dump it and let it lapse back to Marvel when the time comes. #Schadenfreude

 

Reshoots are pretty common for Hollywood movies, though. It's not unheard of for some to be expensive, especially for big budget movies.