Supergirl TV Series is being work on.

[Christopher]

Yeah even David E Kelley's idea of turning Wonder Woman into this sophisticated modern woman and corporate executive might have had a lot of potential and made for a really interesting show-- if the writing and execution hadn't been so horribly bad.

Actually that wasn't as big a change as it may seem. The premise of that reminded me of the Phil Jimenez and Greg Rucka WW runs that focused on her work as the Themysciran ambassador -- particularly Rucka's work, which had a West Wing flavor in the parts that focused on her embassy staff. And Jimenez's run focused a lot on Diana's role as a public figure and celebrity. Aside from changing her from a diplomat to an executive, the focus of the Kelley version could've been pretty similar to those comics runs. But it just wasn't done with enough respect for the character and the premise. Even a faithful adaptation won't succeed if it isn't done well.

 

[Agent Richard07]

Diana Themyscira was the most interesting of the three personas.

 

[theenglish]

If you're going to make so many changes that the character and story are unrecognizable then why not just do something original?

So it's not like there's a certain amount of material you have to keep for the character to remain recognizable. It's about which aspects you keep. If you keep the few most fundamental qualities that define the character and give the audience reason to invest in them, then they're still recognizable even if you change everything else. And of course, it's also a matter of how good the end result is. Audiences are skeptical of change, but if the change works, most of them will accept it (although there will always be purists who refuse to).

I often use the Hulk series as an example to defend my argument, but you have a point of retaining the "essential" element. I really never considered it to be The Hulk.

I used to play in a band. We has a guy who was used to playing a big acoustic bass, a violinist, a keyboardest and me on acoustic guitar. (We also had a great singer.) We played a lot of cover tunes that we reworked to our own style to the point they were VERY different from the original. But if we discovered that ONE element that people identified with the song we could win over the crowd. That little guitar fill in Wonderful Tonight for example we kept on the violin, or the six note intro to Brown Eyed Girl.

 

[Taylirious]

http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/11...t-in-the-same-universe-as-arrow-and-the-flash

SUPERGIRL MAY EXIST IN THE SAME UNIVERSE AS ARROW AND THE FLASH

I am not sure how but it would be cool. Maybe an alternate world where Kara leaks into the ARROW/Flash one cause of the particle accelerator accident?

 

[Guy Gardener]

DC is a mess.

Combine everything already!

 

[CorporalClegg]

I don't know if they should combine everything. I think they'd be better off with separate unis for TV and film.

But the embargo definitely has to go.

 

[The Old Mixer]

Maybe in ten years, they'll have some sort of...Crisis....

 

[DigificWriter]

http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/11...t-in-the-same-universe-as-arrow-and-the-flash

SUPERGIRL MAY EXIST IN THE SAME UNIVERSE AS ARROW AND THE FLASH

I am not sure how but it would be cool. Maybe an alternate world where Kara leaks into the ARROW/Flash one cause of the particle accelerator accident?

Kara being a Kryptonian (which she is) wouldn't change just because Berlanti and Adler were able to set their Supergirl series in the same universe as Arrow and Flash.

The only thing that would likely change from the series' initial description is people recognizing Kara's powers as being similar to those of her cousin, who will probably exist but not yet have revealed his own abilities to the world.

 

[Christopher]

I don't know if they should combine everything. I think they'd be better off with separate unis for TV and film.

Agreed. We don't even know if the DC movie universe will be successful or any good. It's only one movie old, and that movie got a very mixed reception. As James Gunn recently said, the problem with most studios' recent plans to generate shared universes is that they haven't been earned, that they don't have a solid foundation to build on. The Marvel Cinematic Universe worked because it started out with a strong foundation in Iron Man. It was successful enough, good enough, convincing enough, that audiences wanted to see more of that world. By the same token, the reason we have The Flash now, and the reason why Supergirl might tie in too, is because Arrow was successful enough in its own right to lay a foundation. You shouldn't just force everything to be connected for the sake of being connected, because there's no guarantee that will work. You need to start with a strong success and let the larger universe grow outward from it.

So the Arrowverse on TV needs to expand on its own terms. At this point, we have no idea if the Man of Steel movie universe will work as well, if the movies will be liked or if the studio's ambitious plans will turn out to be an overreach and end up being abandoned after a major flop or two. Instead of starting with the franchise and hoping it succeeds, you need to start with a success and build the franchise from it.

 

[Guy Gardener]

They didn't know how well Iron Man was going to be received when Iron Man was being made and they still wedged Nick Fury in there to found the Avengers.

Although according to the documentary that came out last month Marvel was bankrupt and this was their all or nothing last chance before they were broken up and sold for parts.

 

[CorporalClegg]

Well, I think they should just through Gotham into the Arrowverse also. Obviously, from a logistical/legal standpoint it's probably not very likely. Story wise, there wouldn't even have to be much overlap, if any. But I think it would be beneficial to share casting.

They've already named dropped Dollmaker on Gotham already. So why not have Mathis Dollmaker played by Eklund? It's inevitable Ra's will show up on Gotham at some point too. So why not just have it be the same guy?

On the flip side, I'd love to see Doman show up on Arrow some day.

 

[Christopher]

It's inevitable Ra's will show up on Gotham at some point too. So why not just have it be the same guy?

Umm, because Arrow Ra's is terribly miscast? I'd welcome an alternative version. Hopefully one who isn't white this time.

 

[DigificWriter]

They CAN'T throw Gotham into the Arrow/Flash-verse because it has a completely different aesthetic and tone; Arrow's Dollmaker is also kind of dead, whereas Gotham's Dollmaker is very much alive (even if we haven't actually seen him yet).

 

[Taylirious]

I'd like to see Gordon, Lance, West & what passes for a main cop on Constantine(haven't seen it) + future Supergirl series main cop playing poker.

 

[DigificWriter]

^ Who says the Supergirl series is going to have a main character who's a cop?

Just because it's on CBS doesn't mean it automatically has to fit the traditional mold for programming on the network.

We've already seen casting sides for several of the series' main characters, and the only character who even comes close to being a 'cop' is Hank Henshaw, and he's more of a government official than a law enforcement officer.

 

[Guy Gardener]

I wonder if when Jor-El was researching where to send the kids, he considered that Racism benefiting Caucasians was an unfortunate plus? If Jor-El had been black, would he have sent his son and niece to 1930s Earth in rocket ships?

 

[theenglish]

They CAN'T throw Gotham into the Arrow/Flash-verse because it has a completely different aesthetic and tone; Arrow's Dollmaker is also kind of dead, whereas Gotham's Dollmaker is very much alive (even if we haven't actually seen him yet).

There are several dollmakers in the comics anyway.

 

[CorporalClegg]

Umm, because Arrow Ra's is terribly miscast? I'd welcome an alternative version. Hopefully one who isn't white this time.

$10 says that if Gotham does have it's own Ra's, he'll be played by a white guy from the commonwealth.

They CAN'T throw Gotham into the Arrow/Flash-verse because it has a completely different aesthetic and tone;

Why does that matter? Trek has five series in the same universe with all different aesthetics and tones.

Arrow's Dollmaker is also kind of dead, whereas Gotham's Dollmaker is very much alive (even if we haven't actually seen him yet).

Since Gotham has been so careful not to age itself, and because it can be assumed Ollie and Bruce are around the same age, then Gotham would take place before Arrow.

 

[DigificWriter]

Gotham is set in present day, even if this hasn't been confirmed in-series and the show's aesthetic makes it look like it's set in the 70s.

 

[Christopher]

Umm, because Arrow Ra's is terribly miscast? I'd welcome an alternative version. Hopefully one who isn't white this time.

$10 says that if Gotham does have it's own Ra's, he'll be played by a white guy from the commonwealth.

I won't take that bet, thanks. I only said I hoped for it, not that I expect it.

Since Gotham has been so careful not to age itself, and because it can be assumed Ollie and Bruce are around the same age, then Gotham would take place before Arrow.

Actually it's set in an alternate present that's a mix of elements from different eras. It doesn't mesh with the more modern setting of the Arrowverse.

And I'm fine with that. There's no reason why any approach has to be exclusive. There's value in both interconnection and independence, so it's a good thing to have both. Interconnection is an option. It shouldn't bulldoze alternative options into oblivion.