Should the Borg be the villain in Trek 3?
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I could go for something like that. Just not too heavy. I like the idea of technology run amok v. Trek technology, because Trek has always tended to take a positive view of technological advances and the utilitarianism of technology. That technology stripped the Borg of their humanity was another terrible thing about them.
Edited to add, though. I would be worried about one thing. The Borg are more or less one trick ponies once you get to know them. We've seen their schtick. So, if they're ripe for reinvention in the Abramsverse, why not reinvent them all the way into something completely new? Maybe solve the entire Borg civilization problem by making them a species indigenous to one planet, exhibiting a lot of what made the Borg awesome Trek opponents, but with some twists? Maybe they are androids similar to Data. Maybe the debate about how to deal with them has to do with recognizing them as sentient or not. Are they just machines that can be summarily wiped out, or real beings?
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But precisely: STV *was* not great -- it bombed at the box office, which just goes to prove my point. Given the amount invested in production, studios will take absolutely no chance on such a venture.
Trek IV was successful because it broke the mould and "boldly went" where no Trek had gone before. It was neither a "bad guy" movie, nor a "cerebral exploration" movie. What made it successful was that it was funny and made fun of itself. It also put the audience "in" the movie, by having it in 20th century America.
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Remember the TNG episode Parallels? And Riker from the universe where the Borg defeated everyone? What if an older Kirk from a universe where Kirk and company did fight the Borg instead of Picard interferes and the Borg invade this universe earlier than expected?
Maybe too Doomsday Machine-ish but it could work, You get old Kirk. Shatner gets a meaty role. You get the Borg. You get both Shatner and Nimoy.
This was always a great moment.
Maybe too Doomsday Machine-ish but it could work, You get old Kirk. Shatner gets a meaty role. You get the Borg. You get both Shatner and Nimoy.
This was always a great moment.
Maybe this bridge in "Parallels" is the 24th century Abramsverse. It seems to have that "Apple Store" vibe.
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb.../14/Enterprise-D_bridge,_parallel_reality.jpg
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb.../14/Enterprise-D_bridge,_parallel_reality.jpg
First Contact is garbage. Why would anyone want to be happy with it?
I don't know if I'd call it garbage or not but I only rank Insurrection lower on my rankings of Trek movies.
That's not exactly an endorsement, bro.
Considering the Abramsverse 1701 is already significantly larger than the Prime Enterprise D, and the Abramsverse is already capable of building the even larger Vengeance, I don't see why the Abramsverse Enterprise D would be the same size as its Prime Universe counterpart.
Generations and Insurrection certainly are, and admitted by-product of being written by writers more familiar with TV, or with Generations, directed and produced by people more familiar with TV as well. First Contact and Nemesis feel more like movies.
1. I was joking, considering it preceded the Abramsverse by almost 20 years.
2. Even if it were the nu-1071-D, where is there any indication of the ship's scale? After all, the Vengeance bridge is the same size as the nu-E's, but the ship is clearly bigger. And, one would expect more compactness in 70+ years of design evolution. Why wouldn't a 24th century starship have about 5 people on the bridge?
Well, it was the same size as all the other Enterprise Ds when they started popping in. I would think an Abramsverse Enterprise D would drastically dwarf the whole group of them.
Yeah...so did ST 2, 3, and 5.
It probably still is me too. I cannot place it higher than either JJ movies, TMP, TWOK or TUC for that matter either. 6th place it is then.
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