Predict how TOS Kirk will be Resurrected

[OpenMaw]

So, because i'm a little insane I decided to edit my own little "concept" teaser for Star Trek 3. I called it Star Trek Reborn because I have no idea. Only a vague "prediction" is hinted at in the teaser and the notes for how Kirk may return. Spock, compelled by his Vulcan senses to reach out into deep space, Klingons experimenting with their own version of Red Matter... Use your imagination. I'm sure there's a way that could tie together with Kirk Prime coming back.

[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5wDfNhG3X8[/yt]

Keep in mind this is rough. Damn rough. I spent three hours total on this, including collecting all the footage, so the time actually spent editing was very low. If I was really really serious about this I probably would have spent several days and done a lot more sophisticated editing to the footage. (I would have effectively created new shots.)

Credits are given at the end of the video, and additional/extended credits are given in the information bar.

Spoiler: Additional info

- Spock would be suffering some kind of visions, compelling him to deep space. He would contact The Enterprise during it's five year mission and ask for their help.

- The Klingons would be experimenting with their own version of Red Matter (and thusly creating their own tears in space/causing the Federation all manner of grief.)

- Kirk and Carol falling in love, and having a serious relationship, including the potential for a pregnancy. Forcing Kirk and Carol to strongly consider returning home.

- Kirk "Prime" meeting his nuVerse self, along with the entire nuCast, and building the final piece of nuKirk's persona.

- A skirmish between Klingon warships and a Federation flotilla.

- Kirk Prime and Spock Prime reunited after nearly 25 years since their last on screen appearance together.

- For the 50th, some additional appearances by Michael Dorn as a Klingon Fleet Commander, Marina Sirtis taking over as the ships computer, a gracefully aged Jolene Blalock as a council member on New Vulcan.

Yes, it's rather fan wank. I don't care. I cut loose on purpose, because why not?

I'm not sure things are noticeably worse in the AU. One world lost Vulcan, the other lost Romulus (which, thanks to 139 years of foreknowledge, likely won't happen in the AU). Praxis blew up sooner or later. Imagine if, in Star Trek 3 or 4, Kirk frees the entire Borg Collective...

Well. Fine. Be that way. Actually, it's a fair point, I 'spose.

 

[Smellmet]

Star Trek Reborn is a decent title for the upcoming movie

 

[The Doctor]

It's the 50th so there's a clear pull for some sort of cameo for Shatner but I hope it's not more than that.

 

[WarpFactorZ]

So, because i'm a little insane I decided to edit my own little "concept" teaser for Star Trek 3.

Nicely done. The way Kirk's return is teased actually gave me a little shiver.

How can anyone else watch that and honestly say they don't want to see the Shat one last time (and call themselves a true Trek fan)?

 

[Khan 2.0]

I like that trailer! its exciting!

 

[Malaika]

Carol Marcus gives birth to 80-year old Shatner Baby.

The Curious Case of Benjamin Kirk?

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Star Trek Reborn is a decent title for the upcoming movie

Yeah, I'm kind of liking that one as well.

Oh, and Kate Mulgrew should be the computer voice. I called it.

 

[BillJ]

Star Trek Reborn is a decent title for the upcoming movie

Yeah, I'm kind of liking that one as well.

Oh, and Kate Mulgrew should be the computer voice. I called it.

I'd rather have Sirtis. Mulgrew sounds like my dead, chain-smoking Grandma.

 

[wulfio]

They will bring back Kirk by saying:

Thank god we invented the <insert technobabble> machine.

 

[Set Harth]

Thank You for Smoking reference

 

[Lance]

If they do bring him back (and I've said in the other thread what a BAD idea I think it would be to bring Shatner into the third movie), then the ONLY way I can see it working is if this one is consciously written to 'close off' these new movies. He could be a coda, or provide a voice-over, or something like that.

His involvement has GOT to be treated with a deftness of touch, lest it threaten to overwhelm the importance of the real stars of the movie (who are, of course, the alternate time line crew). That's my real fear, that Shatner being in it takes away from these new guys, who haven't really been allowed to have a movie completely to themselves yet. They handled it reasonably well with Spock in the '09 movie, and the cameo in STID was pointless but didn't do any real harm... but Spock's character is easier to use that way. Kirk-Prime is a whole different ball game, because he's James T. Mutha-F***ing Shatner and there's no way you can cast The Shat, and then give him in a lesser role. By his nature he'll steal the movie.

 

[WarpFactorZ]

That's my real fear, that Shatner being in it takes away from these new guys, who haven't really been allowed to have a movie completely to themselves yet.

Well, blame JJ and co. for this one. They could have done a clean reboot from the beginning and "erased" TOS, but instead they did the alternate timeline and opened the door for crossovers.

there's no way you can cast The Shat, and then give him in a lesser role. By his nature he'll steal the movie.

As someone else pointed out, the average viewing public associates Shatner and Nimoy with Kirk and Spock. Most people will say "Who?" when you mention Pine and Quinto (although there will likely be mutterings of Sylar in their reply).

 

[Lance]

there's no way you can cast The Shat, and then give him in a lesser role. By his nature he'll steal the movie.

As someone else pointed out, the average viewing public associates Shatner and Nimoy with Kirk and Spock. Most people will say "Who?", when you mention Pine and Quinto (although there will likely be mutterings of Sylar in their reply).

Yeah, but that's exactly the problem. We haven't had a chance to see the Nu-Trek crew in a movie that doesn't include at least one Old-Trek actor there somewhere. I'd like to see the new movies fly with the training wheels (ie Spock Prime) taken off.

Also I think that's a generalization, I know loads of people who associate Star Trek with the new cast and have little residual interest in backtracking to the original crew.

Well, blame JJ and co. for this one. They could have done a clean reboot from the beginning and "erased" TOS, but instead they did the alternate timeline and opened the door for crossovers.

True, I don't actually disagree with this. Conceptually they included Nimoy because they were worried what doing a 'Hard Reboot' would do to the franchise, but in snarling the Old Continuity so tightly around the New Continuity, they've actually created these problems for themselves later.

I've often felt the same way about the new Dr Who versus the old one. By deciding to relaunch the show with the 'Ninth' Doctor and try to maintain some kind of loose structural link to the original 1963-1989 run, they haphazardly opened up this canon worms () whereupon sometimes the new show goes its own direction with concepts that were already locked down in the old one, and it's just messy.

If they're gonna reboot something, then I'd always rather they just make a clean break of it. I wish they wouldn't do this half-and-half thing that tries to incorporate the old continuity alongside the new, just because they're worried about what the fan reaction will be. In the long term, it always just causes more problems than it solves.

 

[wulfio]

Thank You for Smoking reference

yes sir

 

[Saul]

They could do an 'X-Men Days of Future Past' alternate future type thing or they could have him on an early form of a Holodeck or they somehow save him in the Canon future timeline and have a scene with him and Spock before Spock came back in time. Or it's a clone that ages rapidly (oh, we did that one). Mirror Universe Kirk. Transporter double Kirk. Borg Kirk. Mind Meld scene Kirk etc.

 

[wulfio]

They could do an 'X-Men Days of Future Past' alternate future type thing or they could have him on an early form of a Holodeck or they somehow save him in the Canon future timeline and have a scene with him and Spock before Spock came back in time. Or it's a clone that ages rapidly (oh, we did that one). Mirror Universe Kirk. Transporter double Kirk. Borg Kirk. Mind Meld scene Kirk etc.

Spock went back in time from a period of time after Star Trek Nemesis. Kirk, even if he didn't die already, would have been long dead from natural causes.

 

[TheSubCommander]

He won't be. This is just a really stupid rumor that has surfaced every time Bad Robot starts a new Star Trek movie.

This is most likely the correct answer. But for arguments' sake...

Or Shatner could end up playing the older version of the Abramsverse Kirk?

God, I hope not.

The Borg resurrected him - Shatnerverse.

Doesn't make much sense but neither did the Romulans making a clone of Picard

God, I hope not.

At Old Spock's funeral, Young Spock finds the recorded message from Old Kirk and plays it.

Shatner gets a speech, fans get wanked, everybody's happy.

God, I hope not.

I'll use my idea from when ENT was in its first season: Shatner as a Klingon commander determined to destroy the Enterprise, with Jeffrey Combs as his first officer.

Thanks, but no.

We see a bed-ridden Spock about to expire from natural causes and as he passes into the light, we see the Shat waiting to greet him and these two brothers go off to explore The Great Mystery ...

Oh, Jesus....

Shatner wanted to come back as Tiberius Kirk in what eventually became "In a Mirror, Darkly". The idea was that the Tantalus Device didn't kill, but teleported it's victims into a prison located in the past of the Prime universe. Berman supposedly instead wanted Shatner to play Chef in a knock off of Dave (where Daniels recruits Chef, teaches him to act like Kirk and has him fill in for him at a key point in history), they never agreed on money and nothing came of it.

F*ck no.

Another echo of Kirk emerges from the Nexus. Make the phenomena a doorway in and out of multiple universes. Time doesn't exist there.

Yeah, it's got to be something nexusy. There was a part of Guinan left there. There should be a version of Kirk too.

Anything plausable that bins Generations is O.K. with me though...

Something to do with the Nexus would be my preference, if it were to be done.

The Nexus could be explained to cross timelines as well as space. The Nexus was a MacGuffin in the first place, so going into details on whether this is the Shadow Kirk, or the real one, aren't needed.

Hell, they don't even need to go into how Kirk got there in the first place, beyond Spock Prime throwing out a couple lines that "his friend was lost in some phenomena called the Nexus, trying to save his universe's Enterprise-B."

It might not be pretty, but this could be the easiest, most plausible way to bring Kirk back, if you are to use Kirk-Prime, and want to avoid yet another time travel story.

 

[Set Harth]

Big Giant Head.

 

[Saul]

They could do an 'X-Men Days of Future Past' alternate future type thing or they could have him on an early form of a Holodeck or they somehow save him in the Canon future timeline and have a scene with him and Spock before Spock came back in time. Or it's a clone that ages rapidly (oh, we did that one). Mirror Universe Kirk. Transporter double Kirk. Borg Kirk. Mind Meld scene Kirk etc.

Spock went back in time from a period of time after Star Trek Nemesis. Kirk, even if he didn't die already, would have been long dead from natural causes.

Yeah, so before Nemesis then or a little bit after it.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

The only way I would ever want Shatner in this film is if he plays a Kirk ancestor, like Jim's grandfather. That's IT.

So the Shat would then be able to claim "I'm my own grandpa".