Jenna is Going

[The Mirrorball Man]

I see River as an arc more than a character and that particular arc has ended.

I'm not quite sure what kind of Companion would suit the 12th Doctor. Maybe 2-3 different characters, all pulling in different directions.

 

[Christopher]

I see River as an arc more than a character and that particular arc has ended.

Yeah, "The Name of the Doctor" was clearly her swan song.

 

[Lonemagpie]

I see River as an arc more than a character and that particular arc has ended.

Yeah, "The Name of the Doctor" was clearly her swan song.

And yet the character who ended up as Tasha Lem in Time Of The Doctor was written to be River, until Alex Kingston proved unavailable for filming...

 

[Starkers]

That did seem fairly obvious, but by the same token I'm not quite sure how it would have worked?

 

[The Mirrorball Man]

And yet the character who ended up as Tasha Lem in Time Of The Doctor was written to be River, until Alex Kingston proved unavailable for filming...

Whether that's true or not, those characters ended up having little in common, apart from the fact that they're strong women.

 

[Ithekro]

If any Doctor needs a McCrimmon on the TARDIS it is the 12th Doctor.

Because then he's have someone to talk to like a normal person without having to hear some strange accent from London, Yorkshire, or Liverpool.

 

[Guy Gardener]

And yet the character who ended up as Tasha Lem in Time Of The Doctor was written to be River, until Alex Kingston proved unavailable for filming...

Whether that's true or not, those characters ended up having little in common, apart from the fact that they're strong women.

If River didn't found the Church that kidnapped her mother and raped her childhood, then she would have had the wrong past & disappeared in a puff of discontinuity.

 

[Allyn Gibson]

I see River as an arc more than a character and that particular arc has ended.

Yeah, "The Name of the Doctor" was clearly her swan song.

And yet the character who ended up as Tasha Lem in Time Of The Doctor was written to be River, until Alex Kingston proved unavailable for filming...

That did seem fairly obvious, but by the same token I'm not quite sure how it would have worked?

Here's how I think it was supposed to work.

The River that Clara saw in "The Name of the Doctor" -- and that had been following the Doctor around for hundreds of years since the Library as some kind of invisible Greek chorus -- was the fading echo from River's future Sonic Screwdriver. She was fading data, basically, and not the version that was inside CAL.

The River that was to have been Tasha Lem would have been the River that was uploaded into CAL, a more stable version of the Greek Chorus River.

As for the twelfth Doctor and River, I think that could be quite interesting, especially if River has no idea what's going to happen because the Time Lords rewrote time by giving the Doctor a new regeneration cycle.

 

[The Wormhole]

I've always said that as long as Moffat is running the show or at least contributing scripts there's always the possibility River will return, and I still believe that. The only hurdle now is that Alex Kingston isn't as available as she used to be. Kingston's availability is the only thing preventing River from returning.

 

[Christopher]

Well, then I hope Kingston stays unavailable, since I think the character has run her course.

I had the thought this morning that I hope Capaldi outlasts Moffat's tenure on the show. I'd really like to see a fresh voice take over running the show, and I'd like to see Capaldi's Doctor get a chance to evolve away from Moffat's usual quirks and obsessions.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Kingston and Barry are standing within 5 feet of each other.

BBCA can send a film crew up to Canada,.. isn't orphan Black filmed in Canada? So, fuck it, they all ready have a film crew with in an hours drive, and then John and Alex can bring half the cast of Arrow with them as extras and cameo squee to make the audience have a terminal nerdgasm, and they're set.

Seriously.

Maybe you fly Capaldi aross, and maybe you don't.

Couldn't Jack and River just have a Doctorless adventure?

 

[kirk55555]

Well, based on the River conversation, i'd like to see her again. I always liked the character.

As for a new companion, I think it would be interesting to see another Jamie-like character. Heck, maybe The Doctor can go back to old Scotland, and end up having a son of Jamie join him, although I guess that would be too contrived. Regardless,I would like to see a companion from the past, it would definitely be different.

 

[NightJim]

I had the same thought, but as long as it was packaged as him going to see Jamie and the offspring got involved it might be alright. Also it's not Jamie's replacement that's his son, it's his replacement several times over, so not too bad.

 

[The Mirrorball Man]

Actually a companion who wants to travel with the Doctor because his father did is an interesting starting point.

 

[Timewalker]

I had the same thought, but as long as it was packaged as him going to see Jamie and the offspring got involved it might be alright. Also it's not Jamie's replacement that's his son, it's his replacement several times over, so not too bad.

Do you mean it wouldn't be Jamie's replacement because of the many companions the Doctor has had since, or because for some reason the TARDIS has suddenly become incapable of traveling to the 18th century?

Having Jamie's son (or daughter) travel with the Doctor would be wonderful, especially if Frazer Hines could guest on the show and see them off.

 

[Captaindemotion]

^ I took that to mean that it's not Jamie's immediate replacement.

 

[Timewalker]

I'm still not understanding this. Jamie's immediate replacement as a companion was Liz Shaw. I hope the suggestion wasn't that Jamie's 21st-century descendant become a companion, because I am utterly sick and tired of modern-era companions.

 

[Captaindemotion]

I'm still not understanding this. Jamie's immediate replacement as a companion was Liz Shaw. I hope the suggestion wasn't that Jamie's 21st-century descendant become a companion, because I am utterly sick and tired of modern-era companions.

Well, it's not my comment, but I took it to mean that what he was saying was that if Jamie's immediate replacement had been his son (rather than Liz), that would be corny. But the fact that he would be joining the show decades later, with many replacement companions having come and gone in the interim, would stop it being corny.

Obviously this hypothetical son isn't Jamie's immediate replacement, nobody is advocating time-travel for real to replace Liz in the old show! (I hope!)

 

[The Mirrorball Man]

I am utterly sick and tired of modern-era companions.

And I still don't understand that. It seems to me that, if fans had their way, the Doctor would travel with a knight of the round table, a Time Lord and a Kroton.

 

[Guy Gardener]

You ever wonder if Jamie wasn't absolutely slutted that every time he ran across London in the future that it wasn't a rubble strewn warzone dominated under a Scottish Flag?

If The Doctor and Jamie met an English Monarch... Would he go for his/her throat?

We knew him as a nice bloke, but he grew up killing Red Coats by the bushel and by the pound.