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Jenna is Going

I've always felt that she was more a collection of unrelated character quirks and catchprases than a genuine character with a recognizable human behavior, as if a writer had spent five minutes making a list of unrelated traits and didn't bother to connect them in any convincing way. Maybe a more experienced actress could have made me feel that there was an actual character behind that facade, but seeing Sophie Aldred, a woman in her mid-20's, jumping up and down while shouting "wicked" and pretending to be a teenager was never going to achieve that, and I felt that Aldred's am-dram emoting and awkward body language didn't help.
Eh...I think Sophie Aldred as Ace fit much better than Carol Anne Ford playing Susan, who was written as 10 year old (I could buy her as anywhere from 15-25, but, IMHO, the writers, for most of her run, didn't even write her that old. The Cushing Movies Susan was much closer to the age they wrote her in the show)
Barbara says Susan's 15 in 'The Unearthly Child'.
I totally understand she was supposed to be 15, and was stated as such, I just think the writing most of the time was too young/immature for her to be 15, with the experiences she had
 
Eh...I think Sophie Aldred as Ace fit much better than Carol Anne Ford playing Susan, who was written as 10 year old (I could buy her as anywhere from 15-25, but, IMHO, the writers, for most of her run, didn't even write her that old. The Cushing Movies Susan was much closer to the age they wrote her in the show)
Barbara says Susan's 15 in 'The Unearthly Child'.
I totally understand she was supposed to be 15, and was stated as such, I just think the writing most of the time was too young/immature for her to be 15, with the experiences she had
Not unreasonable. Re-watching TUC, her dialogue does seem to fit someone younger many times with or without her experience as a time traveler.
 
Barbara might not know that she is wrong.

A friend of mine had four 27th birthday parties in a row before he finally felt ready to deal with his 28th.

In an audio, which does not count of course, a Companion Chronicle read by Carol Anne, said that Susan found it amusing how Ian and Barbara treated her like a child when she was easily older than then both of them put together.

If they really wanted to really work the alieness, in the 5 Doctors, Susan should have said that it was 3 or 4 hundred years since she last say her grandfather.

Timelord puberty.

The novelization of the 5 Doctors talked about Susan's children.

There is can't be any scarcity problems on Gallifrey if cites twelve times the size of Gallifrey can take up the space of a broom closet on the surface of Gallifrey.

But if Time Lord Physiology is the result of, or helped or bolstered by genetic engineering, they must have foreseen the problems of hundreds of children sired by each Time Lore across the span of a couple thousand years to them socially even if there resources did stretch.

Puberty would have been delayed, or menopause would have been accellerated, or both.
 
Carol Ann Ford never really like the direction they took Susan and had she known more about the character she'd not have taking the job in the first place.

From an 1984 interview.

“The part I was originally offered ended up being something completely different, and if I’d known I was going to be asked to do the lady I finished up doing for a year, I wouldn’t have been quite so happy to do it. I was doing another television play, and up in the control box was not only the director of the programme I was doing but also Verity Lambert and Waris Hussein. I’ve never asked her what she was doing up there, I presume she was just a friend of the man directing it. Whether or not she said to him ‘I’m looking for someone for this part’ and he said ‘Well come and have a look at this girl’, I don’t know. Anyway, they saw I was a good screamer and offered me the part.
“It never had to be made up to time, but we certainly used to put some of our own ideas into it simply because of continuation of character. When you are doing it for a long period like that, inevitably new directors come in whoc don’t necessarily know every aspect of your character, and there are writers to come on to the programme likewise, and so you have to change things when you know your character just wouldn’t be doing this.
 
In an audio, which does not count of course,

That's debatable. There's no reason it shouldn't unless contradicted by the series. TV Who has acknowledged and supported its Expanded Universe as many times as it's contradicted it (the Eighth Doctor's shout-out to his audio companions in Night of the Doctor, while the novel Human Nature was remade for the series), as well as contradicting itself of course (three explanations for the disappearance of Atlantis). The BBC don't give two hoots about canon so they've never decreed one.
 
The BBC don't give two hoots about canon so they've never decreed one.

Hardly any studio ever "decrees" a canon, because "canon" is a term coined by fans and critics to refer to the original core material as distinguished from its tie-ins, pastiches, and fan fiction. The creators of the original series therefore don't have to worry about canon and never give any thought to the word, because it only has meaning in relation to material outside the core work. The only time studios ever think about canon at all is when they do bother to issue statements about how the tie-in materials relate to the original work. For instance, Paramount/CBS's policy is that Star Trek tie-ins don't count toward the canon, and Lucasfilm licensing's policy (but not George Lucas's own) used to be that the Expanded Universe was kinda sorta part of the canon up until the canon contradicted it, and so on. But usually canon is a concept that only fans think about. I guess the BBC is in that majority of studios that's never addressed the question one way or the other.
 
The BBC don't give two hoots about canon so they've never decreed one.

Hardly any studio ever "decrees" a canon, because "canon" is a term coined by fans and critics to refer to the original core material as distinguished from its tie-ins, pastiches, and fan fiction. The creators of the original series therefore don't have to worry about canon and never give any thought to the word, because it only has meaning in relation to material outside the core work. The only time studios ever think about canon at all is when they do bother to issue statements about how the tie-in materials relate to the original work. For instance, Paramount/CBS's policy is that Star Trek tie-ins don't count toward the canon, and Lucasfilm licensing's policy (but not George Lucas's own) used to be that the Expanded Universe was kinda sorta part of the canon up until the canon contradicted it, and so on. But usually canon is a concept that only fans think about. I guess the BBC is in that majority of studios that's never addressed the question one way or the other.

Exactly what I was getting at, really.
 
The Xmas Special started shooting today so unless they shoot it completely out of sight we could get a definitive answer to this subject soon.
 
Jenna confirmed this week that series 9 starts filming in January, which implies she's in it, but she phrased it as "They start filming," which implies she isn't. Nicely played.
 
The old principle cast members surely must have carte blanche to spend the day "around" the set for shits and giggles as long as it doesn't interfere with production.
 
Of course, if Jenna leaves *in* the special, then her being spotted filming it won't actually tell us one way or the other anyway!
 
For that matter, it's possible that Clara could be a recurring character in Series Nine rather than a regular, the way Martha was in Series Four. So Jenna may well be leaving the show as a principal cast member, but coming back as the occasional guest star.
 
I had a crazy thought about the next companion. We know from the DVD mini-episodes that were on the season 6 set the Doctor still continues to have adventures while his companions are sleeping, with those mini-episodes Amy wakes up in the middle of her relative "night" and catches the Doctor in middle of an adventure. So, what if the next companion is already travelling with the Doctor, and is a permanent companion living on the TARDIS like all Who fandom seem to feel a companion should be, only we haven't seen her since all the adventures the Doctor goes on with Clara are while the other companion is sleeping?

Obviously, this doesn't hold up completely at the moment, Listen definitely works best if we assume the Doctor doesn't have any other companions, but depending on how the rest of the season plays out, the next companion could already be in the TARDIS before Clara leaves.
 
For that matter, it's possible that Clara could be a recurring character in Series Nine rather than a regular, the way Martha was in Series Four. So Jenna may well be leaving the show as a principal cast member, but coming back as the occasional guest star.

It really depends on the nature of her departure. Martha left on good terms. I don't know why, but somehow I feel like Clara won't.
 
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