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Murder!! or not?
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My wife and I have joked about how creepy it is when a murderer shushes their victim all softly-softly as he/she kills them... "Shhhh Shhhh, let it happen... just let it happen."
I imagine Janeway choking Tuvix out from behind with one arm while stroking his hair with the other hand and saying something similar.
Little known fact: If Janeway plants her feet 30 inches apart, she literally cannot be moved.
It's late...
I imagine Janeway choking Tuvix out from behind with one arm while stroking his hair with the other hand and saying something similar.
Little known fact: If Janeway plants her feet 30 inches apart, she literally cannot be moved.
It's late...
You can see Janeway getting angry because Tuvix didn't want to die. "Dammit! Can't you be quiet and die? You stupid..."
They then separate the two, fully briefed them on what happen, and then gave them (and only them) the option of being re-combined back into Tuvix.
In terms of ethics and morality it would be the only correct course of action.
Any of the crew supporting "team-Tuvix" would be given an opportunity to sit down with Tuvok and Neelix and explain their case, as would those in the crew against. Again the ultimate decision would be in the hands of Tuvok and Neelix, and a re-combination would need their mutual agreement.
I've alway thought it a amazing coincidence that Kodos selected who would live or die, and one of those selected to live was Kodos himself !!!!
1. No
2. Probably
3. No they wanted Neelix and Tuvok back and also knew that Tuvok and Neelix would want to be seperate
4. Because he has Tuvok's logic and Neelix's heart. He knew it was the right thing probably.
5. Because Tuvok and Neelix came out of it unscathed?
6. Yes!
2. Probably
3. No they wanted Neelix and Tuvok back and also knew that Tuvok and Neelix would want to be seperate
4. Because he has Tuvok's logic and Neelix's heart. He knew it was the right thing probably.
5. Because Tuvok and Neelix came out of it unscathed?
6. Yes!
If he was a just man, he would have had to have stayed alive to be punished when the relief ships arrived. If he was a superjust man, he wouldn't have eaten while waiting.
4000 dead people. That's a lot of meat to go to waste. Do we assume that he "tricked" his people into being cannibals, or did he give the colonists a choice... Actually considering how fucking annoying neighbours can be, requests might have been made to eat specific people rather than everyone was blended (food processed) into a central depository to make pies from.
What I don't get is that on Enterprise (look at me being a ####.) stasis had already replaced refrigeration. Adapting on site technology into stasis farms couldn't have been that difficult?
4000 dead people. That's a lot of meat to go to waste. Do we assume that he "tricked" his people into being cannibals, or did he give the colonists a choice... Actually considering how fucking annoying neighbours can be, requests might have been made to eat specific people rather than everyone was blended (food processed) into a central depository to make pies from.
What I don't get is that on Enterprise (look at me being a ####.) stasis had already replaced refrigeration. Adapting on site technology into stasis farms couldn't have been that difficult?
I don't understand WHY Tuvix even wanted to stay as Tuvix. I mean... didn't he hold the memories of BOTH Tuvok and Neelix? And due to knowing that information, he should have known that they would WANT to be separated and that everyone who loved and cared about them would want them back.
Neelix had no one who loved and cared about him outside of the crew and Tuvix was already working very hard to ingratiate himself with them. As to Tuvok's loved ones, Tuvix probably pictured himself waltzing back to Vulcan when they got home and cherry picking whatever bits of family life he was amenable to. Anything too Vulcan and arduous (50k walks in the desert with the son etc..) he could just blame on Neelix as being why he did not want to do them.
You know what a fear-boner is right?
It's pretty self explanatory.
Kes had had to two primary reactions to Tuvix, repulsion and murder.
I wonder which one of those sentiments turned Tuvix on more?
He'd have to be an idiot to chase that and not know that that's the nature of the prize?
But that's a bit of a life, kinda like a male black widow or that guy in Germany who answered an ad in Craig's list to be eaten by a cannibal. You can't tell me that that wasn't a sexual dysfunction.
So if Tuvix adored the fear-boner Kes gave him as she wished murderous thoughts on him, how close was he to spontaneous orgasm when Janeway murdered him? Did he orchestrate that entire ridiculous situation just so that Janeway would bring him to the heights of ecstasy through possibly the only method his species is capable of achieving such pleasure?
It's pretty self explanatory.
Kes had had to two primary reactions to Tuvix, repulsion and murder.
I wonder which one of those sentiments turned Tuvix on more?
He'd have to be an idiot to chase that and not know that that's the nature of the prize?
But that's a bit of a life, kinda like a male black widow or that guy in Germany who answered an ad in Craig's list to be eaten by a cannibal. You can't tell me that that wasn't a sexual dysfunction.
So if Tuvix adored the fear-boner Kes gave him as she wished murderous thoughts on him, how close was he to spontaneous orgasm when Janeway murdered him? Did he orchestrate that entire ridiculous situation just so that Janeway would bring him to the heights of ecstasy through possibly the only method his species is capable of achieving such pleasure?
But what if he missed the payoff just as he was separated?
Tuvok and Neelix looked very staid as they sat there, freshly individualized. I don't think they were getting any payoff.
Tuvok and Neelix looked very staid as they sat there, freshly individualized. I don't think they were getting any payoff.
He thought of them like parents and recognized that he was an entirely new person created from them.
It's not a question of wanting to stay like Tuvix, but a question of staying alive at all.
Imagine if someone told you YOU could be divided and your (dead, to add pathos) parents would reappear!
No way you'd do it. They had their go at life, now it's your turn.
No way you'd do it. They had their go at life, now it's your turn.
Theoretically with fake super science you should be able to clone your parents from your discarded fingernail clippings.
I dunno about that. My mom died at 55, dad at 65.
But I'd insist my older siblings be used first.
1. Nope. Two of her crew members suffered catastrophic physical and mental damage in an accident. Janeway rectified the situation.
2. Janeway's the captain. When something needs captaining, she captains it. She captained the hell out of Tuvix.
3. Because Tuvix was a creep who creeped everyone out. Creepily.
4. Maybe he realized at the last minute that he wasn't actually dying.
5. See 3 above.
6. For the love of Kahless, NO!!!
Suppose...just suppose, in TNG's Second Chances, if Picard had decided to merge Wil Riker and Tom Riker back into one being?
The Universe isn't big enough for two Will Rikers.
What if Will Riker had demanded that he have Tom Riker merged into him because he knew he was not a whole person without him? What if talked about Tom Riker like he was a chopped off limb that he wanted back?
Really everyone would know it was petty jealousy that made him want to disappear Tom Riker but Will Riker would mount an impassioned legal case that attempted to prove his ownership of the Tom meat.
Really everyone would know it was petty jealousy that made him want to disappear Tom Riker but Will Riker would mount an impassioned legal case that attempted to prove his ownership of the Tom meat.
Random Convergence Of Technologies. 
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