Discussion in 'Trek Literature' started by STIntergalactic, May 7, 2008.
"Cheers" references, I assume, from what he'd mentioned upthread. I'm more familiar with Flaming Moe's, myself.
Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
Since I don't watch much T.V. as it is, I've only seen an episode of Cheers here and there.
[Bacco]But that's neither here nor there.[/Bacco]
I could have picked any TV show that has, as part of its premise, a "will they or won't they?" duet of mutual interest and denial ("I Dream of Jeannie", "Moonlighting", "Friends", "Cheers", "Frasier", "That 70s Show") between two of the featured characters, that continues as a running gag throughout the series. Eventually, when the pair gets married, viewer interest drops off.
It seemed a bit like "Resistance" was setting up Worf and T'Lana that way.
I thought it detracted somewhat from the storyline and plot, although by the time it really started to appear more often I had started to just plod through to finish it.
I've been wanting to put my rant about that book but I wanted to dig out the DVD of Cause and Effect because I remembered a female crewmember but didn't want to look like a fool if I remembered wrong.
It just seems stupid to me to have a book in effect be a sequel to about 2 minutes of a show and you either don't bother to watch it and you get something like that wrong OR you decided to ignore what was on the screen because you were going to tell your story and what was on the screen didn't matter.
And this has already been mentioned but having everybody on the Bozeman talk and act like they were on some 20th century boat was totally and completely unbelievable.
Then to throw in so much Kirk worshiping that a hologram of Kirk is what convinces Picard he needs to be a captain because I guess he couldn't figure it out for himself.
It's one of those cases with me where I don't blame the author, she's going to write what she wants but I just understand how that thing got published without someone asking "don't we need to rethink this before we release it".
Red Sector is pretty lame too. It's another supposed TNG book that is filled with worship for TOS guys, in this case Spock.
No, I liked it too.
Red Sector is the worst Trek novel I've ever read. It might even be the worst novel I've ever read. What a steaming pile. I hated nearly every page. I just hated the lead character, Stiles. I just wanted to punch him constantly.
Is the Stiles in Red Sector supposed to be related to the "ZOMFG I HATE ALL TEH ROMMIES N ALL D VULKANS 2!!!!!111!!!" Stiles from Balance of Terror?
I think so but I'm not sure. If it was mentioned in the novel I've repressed the memory of it.
Not that I can blame you.
Also: Your post made me snarf my iced tea. Darn you, darn you to heck.
I made KRAD snarf?
[Threepio] Oh my... [/Threepio]
I'm trying to think of other Trek books that I don't like and/or are my least favorite. And it's really hard, because I generally enjoy Trek Lit.
For example, I *really* liked A Fury Scorned. And my most favorite Trek book (because it was my first) is The Death of Princes.
It usually takes a *really* bad book for me to dislike it. (I'm also the type of person who enjoyed *all* the TNG movies, really liked TUC, and hasn't seen STV or STIII)
I hated Ship of the Line as well. That and Red Sector are the only Trek books I outright hate.
And I thoroughly enjoyed it. The "Double Helix" books were having a terrible sameness to them and "Red Sector" was, for me, a great and unexpected change of pace. A real page turner. Some great elderly McCoy and Spock scenes, and the ironic (knowing his ancestors' links with the Romulan Wars) friendship between young Stiles and a Romulan.
A few days after reading it, I made my first naive venture into the world of ST lit bbs's - and discovered I was the only fan in the world who hadn't had a problem with "Red Sector". And, going deeper, I discovered that there many fans who detested most of Diane Carey's work. It was news to me.
Oh, The Death of Princes is definitely one of my favorite Trek novels as well.
It was love at first sight. I wish I could find my copy now, though.
Oh, another book that I liked was Well of Souls.
I would have to say my least favourite Trek novel is Warped. I bought it at a comic book shop in York, England while I was visiting my dad basically for half of what it would cost in North America and still regretted it. Ironically enough I also bought the audio version of "Ashes for Eden" along with the graphic novel adaption and those are among my favourite. Second would be Joy Machine...disapointing execution of an interesting concept.
My least favourite one is "Wardrums"
It's basically a Klingon version of Lord of the Flies, "spiced up" with a Romulan female as the Klingon teenagers' sex godess.
With this book crap becomes almost an art.
The Buried Age.
I bought it against the recommendations of my partner, and was rather annoyed to have to say "I told you so."
I liked the premise. It sounded interesting.
Unfortunately what i found was quite possibly the dullest piece of literature i've ever read. I've only read upto page 102. I just gave up, it'd just be such a chore to continue.
I'd read NF novel, After the Fall for the third time right before that, and before After the Fall; non-trek "Border Princes" a Torchwood novel. I like my books to be fiery and breath-taking, and unfortunately, The Buried Age, was a slow walk compared to the marathons of energy that i'd previously engaged in.
The only book i've read that was worse than that was Kirsten Beyers string theory novel. That was an awful shame, because i loved the first one. I still managed to finish the second mind, although it took me two weeks and i didnt enjoy a second of it. After that i'd lost my interest for the third one, which is a shame cause Heather Jarman rocks.
I loved Before Dishonor, it does ocassionally draw you out of the story and make you think "Picard wouldn't do that" or "is that really necessary." Peter David does that sometimes. Usually its a good thing. I love it in NF, its wonderfully refreshing and i dearly hope NF never ends. Peter David isn't afraid to show fire, passion, sometimes absurdity and most definitely the darker aspects of humanity.
Gotta Love it
^^Well, not every story can be "fiery and breath-taking." Given that I was charged with filling in nine years of Picard's life, it couldn't exactly be lightning-paced. And given that it's Picard we're talking about (early Picard, before the movies turned him into an action hero), a certain introspectiveness was called for. Sorry that's not to your taste, but you can't please everyone.
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