You're a senior officer on DS9 or Enterprise
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I like TNG better, the Enterprise better, Pikard and the actor who plays him better, etc...
But if I am being perfectly honest, i don't think I could work for Pikard... I'm the kind of guy who likes to bend/break rules too much. Sisko seems much more tolerant of that crap. So sorry, Charles Xavier, but I'd rather go play at the Hellfire club.
But if I am being perfectly honest, i don't think I could work for Pikard... I'm the kind of guy who likes to bend/break rules too much. Sisko seems much more tolerant of that crap. So sorry, Charles Xavier, but I'd rather go play at the Hellfire club.
I would agree with you on this. I get the impression that Sisko was more... flexible. Not that I am a huge rule-breaker but I like autonomy in what I am doing. As an aside, I think Starfleet would appeal much more to me than say a present-day human military organization.
In Sisko's defense, it was an entirely different set-up for him. The station was a Federation station, but only at the invitation of the Bajorans. He had a mix of Starfleet and Bajoran officers (not to mention Odo, who sort of counts as a Bajoran officer, since he's in the Bajoran militia, but really he's his own thing) that he commanded. More than that, I view him more as a mayor than a commanding officer, as he also oversaw the businesses on the station. While we did see civilian positions on the Enterprise, I feel safe in saying they were most likely carefully selected to work on Federation starship and not, say, an opportunistic Ferengi who chose the location for the various ploys he could oversee.
I think Sisko was keenly aware any given order he gave would have to be one that he was reasonably sure would fly with both Starfleet and the Bajoran government. If he went too far on the Starfleet side, the Bajorans might have stepped in. If he sided too much with the Bajorans, then Starfleet would have stepped in (they did on a few occasions, as is mentioned in "Rapture").
Therefore, his situation required more flexibility than a starship. It does seem that his command style was a bit less flexible when he commanded the Defiant than it was on the station. Meanwhile, Picard on the Enterprise knew his crew were Starfleet through and through and therefore when he expected something, he knew full well that his officers would understand that. While he did have to be mindful of the various governments of the worlds he visited, he usually didn't have to worry about them in the long-term. I'm sure Sisko got a lot of the, "We don't do things that way in the Bajoran milita," especially early on in his tenure aboard Deep Space Nine. And, as I said, his approach to Quark would be different than Picard's approach to Guinan.
Picard is the commanding officer you wouldn't want to disappoint because he believed in you. Sisko is the commanding officer who you wouldn't want to disappoint because he was intimidating (if you take Ezri's line in "After Image" at face value, Worf was intimidated by Sisko). Of the two, I'd go with Picard, personally, though I do love Sisko as a character.
I think Sisko was keenly aware any given order he gave would have to be one that he was reasonably sure would fly with both Starfleet and the Bajoran government. If he went too far on the Starfleet side, the Bajorans might have stepped in. If he sided too much with the Bajorans, then Starfleet would have stepped in (they did on a few occasions, as is mentioned in "Rapture").
Therefore, his situation required more flexibility than a starship. It does seem that his command style was a bit less flexible when he commanded the Defiant than it was on the station. Meanwhile, Picard on the Enterprise knew his crew were Starfleet through and through and therefore when he expected something, he knew full well that his officers would understand that. While he did have to be mindful of the various governments of the worlds he visited, he usually didn't have to worry about them in the long-term. I'm sure Sisko got a lot of the, "We don't do things that way in the Bajoran milita," especially early on in his tenure aboard Deep Space Nine. And, as I said, his approach to Quark would be different than Picard's approach to Guinan.
Picard is the commanding officer you wouldn't want to disappoint because he believed in you. Sisko is the commanding officer who you wouldn't want to disappoint because he was intimidating (if you take Ezri's line in "After Image" at face value, Worf was intimidated by Sisko). Of the two, I'd go with Picard, personally, though I do love Sisko as a character.
Let's see ...
Sisko was a religious nut who committed war crimes and conspired to drag the romulans into the war.
Picard was stuffy, gave boring speeches and was willing to let planets die in the name of the prime directive.
The answer is neither, I chill on earth and they can bark orders at other people.
Sisko was a religious nut who committed war crimes and conspired to drag the romulans into the war.
Picard was stuffy, gave boring speeches and was willing to let planets die in the name of the prime directive.
The answer is neither, I chill on earth and they can bark orders at other people.
Sisko wasn't responsible for all civilian affairs though. There's still the 'magistrate' Odo threatens Quark with every now and then. Or would that have been a role strictly confined to judicial affairs?
I still think the mayor analogy fits (it was supposed to resemble a Western town, much in the way TOS was supposed to be Wagon Train to the stars). Sisko oversaw everything, but Odo operated like a sheriff would. We do see Quark appeal to Sisko several times over things Odo was doing.
Sisko seems much more relatable. More of an 'everyman', if you will. The kind of guy you could approach in the corridor and give him an update without feeling like you were imposing on his time, or a cadet headed for inspection.
Picard seems like one of those distant commanders who you'd always wonder if he just lacked personality, or was looking down his nose at you. Plus, as a role model, he'd be one of those guys almost impossible to emulate. I think I'd find Picard very intimidating as a CO, especially if I wasn't part of his inner circle.
Preference as a junior officer: I'd rather work for Sisko.
Picard seems like one of those distant commanders who you'd always wonder if he just lacked personality, or was looking down his nose at you. Plus, as a role model, he'd be one of those guys almost impossible to emulate. I think I'd find Picard very intimidating as a CO, especially if I wasn't part of his inner circle.
Preference as a junior officer: I'd rather work for Sisko.
Id probably do well under Sisko, as he is a results driven, no nonsense leader who is holds teamwork to high standard and his not afraid to get his hands dirty. Captaining a space station near a disputed area of Federation space a different mindset than exploring the outer rim like TNG. On DS9 the commander would have to deal with a lot of routine housekeeping issues while balancing diplomactic and military priorities whereas on TNG a problem is encountered, dealt with and life moves on. DS9 is all rise and grind and Siskos working class ethic fits the demands of the job perfectly and would be a great place to evolve and grow as a senior officer.
Both are great leaders in their own way.
But personally, I would rather work under Sisko. My feelings about why can be summed up in two scenes.
First, in "EQUILIBRIUM", he's cooking dinner for his senior staff. He understands the need to be approachable and relatable. Doing this with the senior staff has the trickle down effect of them likely doing something similar to their own teams, which makes not only for a better and happier work environment, but a more productive one. (We also see Sisko do this occasionally later, like in "IN THE CARDS".)
Second, in the final scene of "RULES OF ENGAGEMENT", he tells Worf that being in command means sometimes you have to put on a smile even if it's the last thing you want to do... because they are your crew and you have to take care of them.
There's more reasons, some of which have already been stated, but those two scenes are a key look at his style of command, and are my chief reasons why I'd rather serve under Sisko.
But personally, I would rather work under Sisko. My feelings about why can be summed up in two scenes.
First, in "EQUILIBRIUM", he's cooking dinner for his senior staff. He understands the need to be approachable and relatable. Doing this with the senior staff has the trickle down effect of them likely doing something similar to their own teams, which makes not only for a better and happier work environment, but a more productive one. (We also see Sisko do this occasionally later, like in "IN THE CARDS".)
Second, in the final scene of "RULES OF ENGAGEMENT", he tells Worf that being in command means sometimes you have to put on a smile even if it's the last thing you want to do... because they are your crew and you have to take care of them.
There's more reasons, some of which have already been stated, but those two scenes are a key look at his style of command, and are my chief reasons why I'd rather serve under Sisko.
That is true. While Picard might understand this as well, Sisko is the one who expresses it.
Sisko. I want to try his jambalaya.
If you don't know, I don't know either.
I would rather work under Picard's command. I find that the situation on DS9 and being involved directly in wars isn't something I see myself getting into. I would probably do better on the Enterprise.
So, I'm a 'senior officer on DS9 or Enterprise'
First order of business: call Starfleet command to find out on which of the two I'm actually supposed to be. Oh, and some additional details about rank and position would also be nice.
First order of business: call Starfleet command to find out on which of the two I'm actually supposed to be. Oh, and some additional details about rank and position would also be nice.
If there's a war going on, it might not matter, given that Ezri (a station counselor) was blasting away at Jem'Hadar like a gold shirt grunt.
