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Your postmortem thoughts on DISCO
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Fair.
My postmortem thought, which is exactly the same as the thought I had when the show was still in production, is that it was too heavily serialized. I felt like I couldn't just enjoy a single episode on its own merit as a piece of solid storytelling, but had to binge watch an entire season to feel like anything important was actually happening, story-wise. In this regard, I feel that SNW strikes a much better balance.
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DISCO? It was a train wreck. Gigatons of potential, wasted. Too many cooks, perhaps, especially early on. Likely, CBS should have stuck with whatever Fuller was going to do originally, without interfering. In the end, given what we got, I would be hard pressed to come up with more than five episodes that were worth a spit.
But DISCO gave us SNW, which is a huge plus. SNW has had outstanding episodes.
If DISCO opened the door for LDS, which seems likely, then that was also a positive.
Will SFA be good? That remains to be seen, but the trailers have not been promising.
But DISCO gave us SNW, which is a huge plus. SNW has had outstanding episodes.
If DISCO opened the door for LDS, which seems likely, then that was also a positive.
Will SFA be good? That remains to be seen, but the trailers have not been promising.
Just completed a rewatch of Season 2, and I still think the idea of the crew going to the future (930 years!) to be with Burnham, someone they barely tolerated in Season 1, to be far fetched. The only person who had nothing to lose in going, was the Terran emperor, the others faked their deaths, left behind all their loved ones to be with Burnham?
Yeah right.
Yeah right.
Children of Time (episode)
Investigating a planet surrounded by a powerful energy field, the crew of the Defiant discovers their own descendants, and learns that in two days they will crash two hundred years in the past. "Captain's log, stardate 50814.2. The Defiant is returning to Deep Space 9 after a week-long...
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I agree with Nyotarules' point about it being unbelievable that the whole crew would go with Burnham. At least in "CHILDREN OF TIME", the crew had a personal connection with those on the planet: they were their own descendants, so I can see them deciding on making sure history repeats itself. The Discovery crew didn't have THAT close a connection with Burnham. A few people? Maybe. The whole ship? Ludicrous.Children of Time (episode)
Investigating a planet surrounded by a powerful energy field, the crew of the Defiant discovers their own descendants, and learns that in two days they will crash two hundred years in the past. "Captain's log, stardate 50814.2. The Defiant is returning to Deep Space 9 after a week-long...
It was yet another case of the DISCO writers giving the audience ridiculous and terrible writing.
This is one reason why Michael Burnham is called a "Mary Sue".
For some inexplicable reason, Michael Burnham is admired by the crew.
And they don't know each other that well. They have known each other for fewer than 6 months.
S1E03 takes place in November 2256.
S2E14 takes place in early January 2258.
There is the season 1 9-month time jump forward during 2257.
The crew of the Discovery gives up their lives for someone they knew for fewer than 6 months!
And your point is?Children of Time (episode)
Investigating a planet surrounded by a powerful energy field, the crew of the Defiant discovers their own descendants, and learns that in two days they will crash two hundred years in the past. "Captain's log, stardate 50814.2. The Defiant is returning to Deep Space 9 after a week-long...
DS9 also had a bunch of people bizarrely abandoning home for people they barely knew
I would abandon my home to give my descendants life if I met them. I would not do so for a colleague I barely tolerated, was an ex con responsible for a well respected and loved manager's death.
And by killing T'Kuvma, assured a continuing war that killed millions in the Federation.
At least the descendants of the Defiant crew were innocents.
Did they do it for Burnham or did they do it for the future of all sentient life?
And the Klingons would have went to war with the Federation with or without Burnham's actions and with or without T'Kuvma's death.
And the Klingons would have went to war with the Federation with or without Burnham's actions and with or without T'Kuvma's death.
In that case, by going home they would have caused a genocide resulting in the death and erasure from the timeline of an entire culture of innocent people, children included. They clearly didn't want that on their conscience.
Didn't stop Janeway
They did it for Burnham because the entire crew was not necessary to send Discovery to the future. A handful (say, half a dozen or so) would have been enough.
T'Kuvma being captured would have been the bargaining chip that would have stopped the war from escalating further.
Him getting killed by Burnham made him a martyr and the Klingons fought that much harder.
The war raging on like it did was Burnham's fault.
It was Georgiou that authorized that mission, not Burnham.
And the mission was to capture T'Kuvma, not kill him. Burnham killed him and made him a martyr, therefore it was her fault.
(I do agree that the one mistake Georgiou made was to bring her along for that mission, especially so soon after she attempted mutiny. She should have brought someone else with her... security chief, a redshirt, anyone but Burnham.)
(I do agree that the one mistake Georgiou made was to bring her along for that mission, especially so soon after she attempted mutiny. She should have brought someone else with her... security chief, a redshirt, anyone but Burnham.)
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