Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies: Kelvin Universe' started by pst, Nov 29, 2017.
So....................... basically blowing up Vulcan wonked up quite a bit.
In all seriousness, nothing. I normally LOVE alternate timelines and universes, but this one isn't different enough in the grand scheme of things to make an interesting AU story. It's exactly the same as canon except Kirk and Spock's bios are different, and there's no planet Vulcan.
The only possible, vaguely interesting plotline I can come up with, is that maybe without Vulcan, the Federation weakened and got conquered by the Klingons, Cardassians, Dominion, etc. Since making the humans rebels would make it too similar to the Mirror Universe, this one could be about the Humans and other former Federation races trying to rebuild the Federation. So it would be like "Andromeda," but without Kevin Sorbo and the talking pile of bat turds.
Wow. You know what? When I turn the little wheels in my head on how I would make a new Star Trek series, - in whichever timeline/timeframe it is, I somewhat always come around using the Sheliak as an early adversary. I don't know why - I think I just like the concept of a dark, scary alien menace that in reality is a bunch of pedantic sticklers. Also I think they are pretty easy to re-design, while still having a somewhat "familiar" alien race to appear. Glad to see I'm not the only one fascinated with them!
(PS: I always thought about doing soe further alterations to the Sheliak. Like their starships being huuuge, somewhat stardestroyer-like, but when they beam aboard, the scary, black Sheliak turn out to be actually midget-sized small beings with a deep voice. Still a mighty power not to be messed with, though.)
Yeah, that's the main problem with the Kelvin-timeline, isn't it? It's basically just "modern TOS", and "Oh, btw ,Vulcans don't matter". Like, I probably would be down with another series set in the TOS-timeframe (although it should look closer to the JJ. Abrams movies than DIS - which, while being a fine show, visually looks totally out of place).
If anyone were to create a new Trek series, I would like it to be set post-Nemesis, even if it would be set in the Kelvin timeline. I wanna' see classic treknology like replicators and holodecks again, just updated for a modern television show.
"Discovery's" visuals are just too busy for me personally. I love the still images I see, but clips I try to watch make me dizzy.
My idea would be to do a show based in either the old e-surance commercial (featuring comedian Darrin Rose), or the Hewlett-Packard one featuring the academy class on some desolate terrain.
All she needed was a chance and her whole life would have turned around.
Hrmm. A joint expedition Star Fleet Scout vessel with Vulcan complement looking for a new homeworld for a Vulcan colony. Almost all planetary exploration with obligatory philosophical complications arising from differences between Human and Vulcan mindsets. Kind of a "what if the Taming of the Old West had a conscience and indigenous peoples were treated with respect--most of the time. When they're not massacring the pioneers." Throw in long-lost traditions of Vulcan exploratory expeditions, the discovery of Vulcan culturally related artifacts and ruins, and the inevitable realization that they are following the breadcrumbs of the post-Surak diaspora and unhappy Romulans are waiting down the road.
The JJTrek series should take place during or after Into Darkness. A smaller, sleek ship which holds a crew of 300; the average age for the crew should be in their 20's and they're exploring space. The crew should be multi-cultural, this means less caucasians, and focus on a new alien where she/he could shine.
out of curiosity, why that specific time frame?
Mine would be called "Star Trek" and star:
Chris Pine as Captain James T. Kirk
Zachary Quinto as Commander Spock
Karl Urban as Dr. Leonard McCoy
Zoe Saldana as Lt. Uhura
Simon Pegg as Commander Montgomery Scott
John Cho as Lt. Hikaru Sulu
and Sofia Boutella as Jaylah
Kirk would command the newly launched U.S.S. Enterprise, NCC-1701-A and the series would be a mix of new stories, and a retelling of original series stories with a new spin on them to take advantage of the Kelvin universe.
I've been saying for awhile that my dream Trek TV show would be a Kelvin version of TNG. The characters are so rich, and there's so much new you could do with them in the expanded parameters of modern TV.
this has less to do with a kelvin TV show than a contrast of TOS vs TNG, but i always thought TNG could never be remade or recast. unlike TOS which dealt with tropes and iconography, TNG's characters were made primarily by the performances and chemistry of the cast. there's not that much text about TNG characters, it's all subtext injected by the cast. so unless we actually see patrick stewart as kelvin picard, i don't know if i want to see what the crew of the enterprise-D is up to in the kelvin timeline.
I've always wished DSC was set in its own third timeline, but I'd be just fine with it being a Kelvin timeline show. I'd like to see the Blingons from Into Darkness take on the Purple Klingons from DSC. I'm not even being sarcastic.
I've thought about this. You could even advance the setting a little further to maybe the 2390s so that you can bring back some of the cast from TNG/DS9/VOY. Since it's a different timeline, you could cherry pick elements from Prime timeline TNG, DS9, VOY, but you wouldn't have to adhere to it all. Example: Tasha Yar could still be alive in the future Kelvin timeline. Things could be similar, but yet different.
So would I. But the problem is that the Kelvinverse lies with Paramount.
I don't think that's nearly as big a problem as many make it out to be (though I'll grant it would be easier if there definitively were no more Kelvinverse films on the horizon).
Star Trek Buran or Star Trek Snenzhou.
Actually, I think (and I've already said) that there should be ties between the movies and any TV show (and I also said that this Star Trek TV show should have been set on another starship, starbase, or space station [a'la DS9] at the same time as the Kelvinverse movies, with a guest appearance by one of the movie series characters in some episodes each season, also a'la what Marvel Studios does with its movies and TV shows being tied together.) I don't think that the Kelvinsverse movies have to end just because there's a Kelvinverse TV show on, and Abrams felt that way too, which is why he pitched a Star Trek (Kelvinverse) animated series that would have been on CBS.
Also, as I said before, an end credits logo for a Kelvinverse Star Trek show shouldn't be hard to do; first Bad Robot, then Paramount, then CBS Television Studios.
I'd have a bad guy go back in time and alter history so that James T. Kirk was born in Riverside, Iowa on Earth instead of on the USS Kelvin.
Then I'd proceed to tell TOS stories in the new history.
Just make it like the Kelvin films but in a tv show format and I'd be happy. This is probably my number one Trek pipe dream that will never come true.
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