Key word being "few."
If you say so. It was done successfully with the Star Trek movie reboot. A series may draw a crowd too.
Key word being "few."
The way you worded it I thought you meant straight-up remakes of TOS episodes with just a few minor tweaks.If you say so. It was done successfully with the Star Trek movie reboot. A series may draw a crowd too.Key word being "few."
The way you worded it I thought you meant straight-up remakes of TOS episodes with just a few minor tweaks.If you say so. It was done successfully with the Star Trek movie reboot. A series may draw a crowd too.Key word being "few."
The way you worded it I thought you meant straight-up remakes of TOS episodes with just a few minor tweaks.If you say so. It was done successfully with the Star Trek movie reboot. A series may draw a crowd too.
Naah. Same universe as the reboot. There would have to be some surprises.
The way you worded it I thought you meant straight-up remakes of TOS episodes with just a few minor tweaks.
Naah. Same universe as the reboot. There would have to be some surprises.
Well I hope the surprises include a metric ton of new and better developed female and/or alien main characters because that's would be the only way to get me to watch.
On that note, if it must be a reboot of TOS, why not bring in Mress (spelling?), the Caitian officer from TAS? Possibly the Andorian they had on there too. Mress would probably be hell for the make up department (if the show is life action) but at least then there'd be two female officer instead of just one.
Edit: Actually this made me think, I might be able to warm up to the idea of a TOS remake series if it was a BSG-style hard reboot (obviously hopefully not as GRIMDARK as nuBSG was, but in the sense of playing fast and lose with the characters and setting, and possibly canibalizing the later Prime Tieline shows for some world building elements)
Here is what I could see:
First can we make "Nyota" something that only existed in the alt. universe?Com. Nyota Uhura ... this version of Uhura is the pragmatic military type ...
A big part of being able to have M'ress would be the makeup department. If she can't be shown in close up while speaking, she can't be a principal character. That said, having a hero character who isn't a "primate" would be a plus.Lt.-Com M'Ress: Replaces PrimeUhura as the Enterprises Ops/Com Officer. A young member of the feline Caitian species.
Having her possess a accent of some sort would be good, it would set her apart.Obviously the Purring speech has to go ...
You have put a ton of thought into this, Orphalesion. Like I said, it would be the same universe as the rebooted movies, so giving Bones the "Starbuck" treatment would not be consistent. There is obviously nothing wrong with introducing more female lead characters, but why would it have to be at the expense of things already established?
Interesting ideas. Did you ever see Jeremy Grunloh's Star Trek? The scripts are no longer online but it was so good. Irt was reimagined as an 'occupational drama'; Sulu was an older gay man with a daughter; Nogura was a woman and Kirk's mentor and there were flashbacks telling what happened to Captain Pike:
https://moeskido.wordpress.com/2008/08/28/its-only-trivia-if-youre-not-a-fan/
And just for laughs here is my vision taking elements from all 48 years of the franchise:
http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=253360
Sure I always preferred "Upenda" anyway, though if you mean that we should just give her a name that doesn't telegraph her ethnicity from a mile away we could also give her a more traditional "western" name (as most Africans I have met have anyway) How about "Nichelle?"First can we make "Nyota" something that only existed in the alt. universe?
I like the idea of someone in the main group being more military and providing a view point for that vantage point, counter balancing the philosophies of other officers. And not have that person be the tac/security officer.
Yes that would be the biggest problem for a life action version of her, as well as possible comparisons to old Andrew Lloyd Webber musicals. Of course there's nothing against changing the look of the Caitians to be more manageable on a TV budget or making her an entire different species altogether.A big part of being able to have M'ress would be the makeup department. If she can't be shown in close up while speaking, she can't be a principal character. That said, having a hero character who isn't a "primate" would be a plus.
Nothing against an accent however "purring" when used by humanoid women is often perceived as sexualized and that's what I want to avoid, especially with a character who's a young feline woman. A different sort of accent, sure, but then they might run into similar problems as they had with Troi's accent once they show more Caitians.Having her possess a accent of some sort would be good, it would set her apart.
Okay, you ladies are really taking off with the TOS suggestion. If it really needs to change so much how about a TOS time frame series based entirely on the Star Trek mirror universe instead?
Nah, that's just some ideas I came up with while doing laundry, it's completely unpolished and rambling in places.
As for "inconsistent" the setting in the movie continuity would be your idea, this is mine. Two different ideas. The movie continuity is your ideal Trek show and the "hard" reboot is my ideal TOS-inspired show.
I agree with you that I'm usually not a big fan of changing the sex or ethnicity of an already established character for a reboot. However a show can only have so many major characters and if we don't want a repetition of the sausage fest that was the TOS cast someone has to be "Starbucked"![]()
That "sausagefest" was a forumula that worked though. We tried it your way with Voyager, and that didn't work out so well. I think the key is having quality actors play interesting characters (regardless of things like gender). Forcing it for the sake of forcing it might just disappoint some people.
I favour a new character line-up in a new Trek TV show, if only because it would be an opportunity to make Trek less "white". Especially if the show has a large main cast, like TNG or DS9, there's no excuse not to have a good variety of human types (i.e. a black guy made up as a Klingon doesn't count). I can't help feeling the heavy whiteness of the show has turned off a lot of non-white viewers...
One post-apocalypse idea is survivors building new cultures/societies. Perhaps in a devastated/barely-hanging-on Federation, strictures would be loosened regarding Transhumanism. Imagine refugees trying to build new cultures around forbidden technology.Yay, a speculation thread!
As for the basic setting, it might be a bit cliche, but I'd actually like a series set a century after TNG/DS9/VOY in a universe where a terrible, long winded war has devastated the Alpha and Beta quadrants, sort of almost a Post-Apocalyptic setting.
The other theme I'd like to see would introduce a sort of spirituality and transcendence into Trek (which it is sorely lacking imho)
With technology slowly failing people could turn to superstition and religion again, at the same time there should be hints at genuine higher states of being.
Of course a transhumanist element would also be interesting to see.
That is racist. lolthe heavy whiteness of the show
The problem with any new series is that you run into timeline issues involving previous ST series. That's why it's often attractive to go either forward (beyond TNG) or backwards (Prior to Enterprise). -As if there is no way that more than one good starship could possibly exist in a galaxy at the same time. The problem with going any further back is that you are approaching our current timeline, and many of the technologies shouldn't exist at that time. My thought is that writers just enjoy the freedom to explore stories without being inhibited or pestered by Star Trek canon zealots. Remember how they cried foul when 'Enterprise' used a transporter when it should not have been invented? Or when they met a race that shouldn't have been met for another 80 years? Moving into the future frees them to write without worrying about offending someone. Another exploration idea would be to explore other galaxies far away from our own.
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