When Janeway comes back to Starfleet, she uses her security clearance as an admiral to poke around Starfleet's classified archives, learns about the Spore Drive and flips the fuck out.
Your head canon
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My head canon:
Seven spent fifteen years in the Borg plus four on Voyager, for a total of nineteen years as a soldier (officially). She served in Light Infantry and Psychological Warfare (Psy Ops) units.
She was a high-ranking Borg officer(?). She's a former commander (she's commanded troops and once had the ear of the Borg Queen herself).
She has PTSD and anger management issues.
Seven spent fifteen years in the Borg plus four on Voyager, for a total of nineteen years as a soldier (officially). She served in Light Infantry and Psychological Warfare (Psy Ops) units.
She was a high-ranking Borg officer(?). She's a former commander (she's commanded troops and once had the ear of the Borg Queen herself).
She has PTSD and anger management issues.
In my head canon, Neelix found out about the spore drive a week into joining Voyager while snooping around in classified files. However, he thought it was a recipe of Mushroom soup and spent the next seven years making 'Mycelial Surprise' and Sporeghetti with leola root bolognese.
Speaking of Janeway, I think the reason why she wasn't court martialed or otherwise reprimanded was because she was a celebrity.
We have evidence of this in Author Author, where Harry Kim's parents remarked how Janeway was always talked about. So, prosecuting Janeway over what her decisions would have caused public uproar and opprobrium and so she was promoted both in recognition for her very real achievements, and because Starfleet didn't want a lot of what happened in the DQ to become public knowledge for security/information/intelligence reasons.
We have evidence of this in Author Author, where Harry Kim's parents remarked how Janeway was always talked about. So, prosecuting Janeway over what her decisions would have caused public uproar and opprobrium and so she was promoted both in recognition for her very real achievements, and because Starfleet didn't want a lot of what happened in the DQ to become public knowledge for security/information/intelligence reasons.
Random scattering of items in my personal head canon:
1) Nick Locarno was Tom Paris's half-brother, son of Admiral Paris from a short-lived affair.
2) When Tom said the Delaney sisters "do everything together," he really did mean everything. Blush now if you're going to....
3) Chakotay didn't know Eddington (who joined the Maquis after Chak ended up in the DQ), but he did know Ro. Though I'm not sure if he met her in the Maquis; I think he was one of her tactical instructors at Starfleet Academy.
4) Chakotay's sister was captured by the Cardassians when his home planet was attacked, and for years he believed her to be dead. That's why he never mentioned her until the later-season episode where he said his call home was going to be to her.
5) B'Elanna's mom really was dead, because her being alive makes the whole storyline of "Barge of the Dead" a cheat.
6) At some point, Neelix and Samantha Wildman became an item.
7) On their return home, all, or at least most, of the Maquis left Starfleet for civilian life.
8) Addendum to 7: Chakotay pursued his doctorate, and taught anthropology at a regular university unconnected to Starfleet.
1) Nick Locarno was Tom Paris's half-brother, son of Admiral Paris from a short-lived affair.
2) When Tom said the Delaney sisters "do everything together," he really did mean everything. Blush now if you're going to....
3) Chakotay didn't know Eddington (who joined the Maquis after Chak ended up in the DQ), but he did know Ro. Though I'm not sure if he met her in the Maquis; I think he was one of her tactical instructors at Starfleet Academy.
4) Chakotay's sister was captured by the Cardassians when his home planet was attacked, and for years he believed her to be dead. That's why he never mentioned her until the later-season episode where he said his call home was going to be to her.
5) B'Elanna's mom really was dead, because her being alive makes the whole storyline of "Barge of the Dead" a cheat.
6) At some point, Neelix and Samantha Wildman became an item.
7) On their return home, all, or at least most, of the Maquis left Starfleet for civilian life.
8) Addendum to 7: Chakotay pursued his doctorate, and taught anthropology at a regular university unconnected to Starfleet.
Agreed. I'm not a huge fan of mysticism, but I wish that, if the showrunners were going to greenlight an episode centering on it, they would at least commit to the premise. They pulled the same sort of cop-out in "Sacred Ground." There one of the "elders" said something like "Well, maybe this isn't real either," and here they had Miral saying, "Well, you saved my soul but maybe I'm not even really dead." (And if memory serves, in the novelverse she wasn't.) Come on! Stop trying to have it both ways.
but did one of them say "It's a faaaaake!" ?
Well, I guess they still did get into the idea of an afterlife in other episodes. In Coda, the alien says "You live a dangerous life captain. One of these days it's gonna happen, and then you'll serve me a long, long time" or something like that. And in Cathexis, Chakotay's incorporeal.. essence? spirit? soul? Is separated from his body and can travel around and into other people.
This was actually mentioned in a TrekLit novel once. I can't remember which one.... But the Romulan told about his dealings with Voyager in his deathbed, but wasn't believed or something like that.
@Christopher wasn't that in one of your DTI novels?
The destruction of Romulus was not prime universe canon until it became a plot point in ST: Picard.
The EMH has a foot fetish.
I responded to this because I found it interesting that I disagreed with almost all of it. One interesting thing is you seem to want very little change. Once a character or plot is invented, it should be played and played and played to death. A five hour arc based on the robot war? More Suder stories? Learning Curve? Equinox? Super Lizards? Hirogen? How many times can the crew of Voyager be chased as "prey"? You do realize these plot ideas and enemies will get very stale very quickly, right? Seven years of the Maquis trying to take over the ship isn't going to get very old? This is why we conflict over Kes so often. Extending these plots, characters and ideas beyond their useful life leaves us with nowhere to go except stretching very far to come up with ways to keep them fresh, instead of just coming up with fresh ideas..
I'm watching "Bones" on Hulu, and about midway they introduce a recurring villain. He's smarter than the ensemble, and every time he shows up, the plot is exactly the same. He threatens one or more of of them, manipulates every computer in the world to do his bidding, seems omnipotent, thinks of everything, out-thinks all of them, and then gets forced someway back into hiding till either mid-season or next season. I hate these episodes. Because instead of something new, they regurgitate the same stupid plot.
One thing I can say about the early years of NCIS... every time I thought that they were going to extend a great plot line into one of these stupid interminable "arcs", they wrapped it up exactly when it was time for it to be done, and then moved on to the next great plot line. That's good writing... not rehashing and reusing the same threads and plot lines over and over. Or extending them needlessly to squeeze everything they can out of them.
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What's always in my head is I wish I could take a pill and watch all these episodes (and the other ST series) fresh again. I have seen every one of them on Netflix at least 20 times. I'll watch from time to time, but it's nothing compares to when they were all "fresh", which lasted for the first 8-10 or so showings.
Kes was essentially warmed-over Troi (every other line out of her mouth was "I feel ... " or "I sense ... "
).Where does this leave Seven of Nine?
IOW, you're proposing Star Trek: Gilligan's Island.
What a waste of seven years.
You would have Voyager last as long as The Simpsons!
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Harry is in love with Tom but he's so far in the closet he's got Narnian snow on his boots.
The Intrepid class was designed by a captain (just look at the size of that ready room).
Tuvok is in love with Janeway but he's loyal to his wife.
Neelix is a massive jerk, scrambling around in a debris field while the 2 year old he purports to love is held captive by a group of angry desperate types, this is what we learn about him episode 1.
Threshold was a holonovel written by Chakotay; evidence being that it's terrible and Tom gets horrifically mutated.
The Intrepid class was designed by a captain (just look at the size of that ready room).
Tuvok is in love with Janeway but he's loyal to his wife.
Neelix is a massive jerk, scrambling around in a debris field while the 2 year old he purports to love is held captive by a group of angry desperate types, this is what we learn about him episode 1.
Threshold was a holonovel written by Chakotay; evidence being that it's terrible and Tom gets horrifically mutated.
Kes was essentially warmed-over Troi (every other line out of her mouth was "I feel ... " or "I sense ... "
IOW, you're proposing Star Trek: Gilligan's Island.
What a waste of seven years.
I thought of "Gilligan's Island" myself when I read this. He wanted them to be perpetually looking for "Susperia" for 5 seasons instead of focusing on moving forward. That was the formula for so many of those stupid campy 60's shows. "Getting home" was a slipped inch away each week. God.
