Your Box office Predictions for Star Trek? (and box office tracking)

[Flake]

Re: What are your Box office Predictions for Star Trek?

Re: The Sequel.

Nothing stopping them from reducing the budget if it makes less than they anticipate, right? So instead of 150 Million they could do the next one for 100... You know, a similar situation to what Khan faced. TMP had a huge budget and still made a good amount of money but perhaps not as much as they would have liked so they made TWOK for less!

 

[BolianAuthor]

Re: What are your Box office Predictions for Star Trek?

Opening day/night will be the ONLY time this film makes any money of any respect. Otherwise, it'll make Paul Blart look like Dark Knight.

Nobody of any number is gonna go see this thing. Opening day/night, all the Trek fans will be lined up, clinging to the hope that somehow they'll be able to save this thing, but otherwise, it'll be a royal floppa-roppa.

Every time I've been in a theater where the trailers for Trek have been shown, the audience reactions range from light chuckles, to laughter, to outright groans. People who like Trek will see this thing. Other people will not.

Think about it... if someone has already had 40+ years to get into Trek, and never did, what could possibly make them want to see this? They're just not into Trek. Nothing will change their mind... for them, they like movies with raw, mindless, action, where lots of things go KA-BOOM, with hot cars, and hot women... in other words, movies like Transformers. For this audience, Trek is a series loved by chess-club geeks, who give strange hand signals... and they won't change their mind about it... if they could, they would have done so with ENT or one of the more recent films.

But, if they (Paramount) need to see the dismal box office returns to show them the grim reality, then so be it. Trek better hope to god no other movie opens the same day, otherwise the OTHER film will be the one that rakes in money.

 

[Borgminister]

Re: What are your Box office Predictions for Star Trek?

[Phlox]Optimism![/Phlox]

 

[Augustus]

Re: What are your Box office Predictions for Star Trek?

Opening day/night will be the ONLY time this film makes any money of any respect. Otherwise, it'll make Paul Blart look like Dark Knight.

Nobody of any number is gonna go see this thing. Opening day/night, all the Trek fans will be lined up, clinging to the hope that somehow they'll be able to save this thing, but otherwise, it'll be a royal floppa-roppa.

Every time I've been in a theater where the trailers for Trek have been shown, the audience reactions range from light chuckles, to laughter, to outright groans. People who like Trek will see this thing. Other people will not.

Think about it... if someone has already had 40+ years to get into Trek, and never did, what could possibly make them want to see this? They're just not into Trek. Nothing will change their mind... for them, they like movies with raw, mindless, action, where lots of things go KA-BOOM, with hot cars, and hot women... in other words, movies like Transformers. For this audience, Trek is a series loved by chess-club geeks, who give strange hand signals... and they won't change their mind about it... if they could, they would have done so with ENT or one of the more recent films.

But, if they (Paramount) need to see the dismal box office returns to show them the grim reality, then so be it. Trek better hope to god no other movie opens the same day, otherwise the OTHER film will be the one that rakes in money.

Wow, that has to be one of the most pessimistic posts I have ever read on this board....

 

[WarMaster1701]

Re: What are your Box office Predictions for Star Trek?

Opening day/night will be the ONLY time this film makes any money of any respect. Otherwise, it'll make Paul Blart look like Dark Knight.

Nobody of any number is gonna go see this thing. Opening day/night, all the Trek fans will be lined up, clinging to the hope that somehow they'll be able to save this thing, but otherwise, it'll be a royal floppa-roppa.

Every time I've been in a theater where the trailers for Trek have been shown, the audience reactions range from light chuckles, to laughter, to outright groans. People who like Trek will see this thing. Other people will not.

Think about it... if someone has already had 40+ years to get into Trek, and never did, what could possibly make them want to see this? They're just not into Trek. Nothing will change their mind... for them, they like movies with raw, mindless, action, where lots of things go KA-BOOM, with hot cars, and hot women... in other words, movies like Transformers. For this audience, Trek is a series loved by chess-club geeks, who give strange hand signals... and they won't change their mind about it... if they could, they would have done so with ENT or one of the more recent films.

But, if they (Paramount) need to see the dismal box office returns to show them the grim reality, then so be it. Trek better hope to god no other movie opens the same day, otherwise the OTHER film will be the one that rakes in money.

Wow, that has to be one of the most pessimistic posts I have ever read on this board....

QFT. My god

 

[RAMA]

Re: What are your Box office Predictions for Star Trek?

Opening day/night will be the ONLY time this film makes any money of any respect. Otherwise, it'll make Paul Blart look like Dark Knight.

Nobody of any number is gonna go see this thing. Opening day/night, all the Trek fans will be lined up, clinging to the hope that somehow they'll be able to save this thing, but otherwise, it'll be a royal floppa-roppa.

Every time I've been in a theater where the trailers for Trek have been shown, the audience reactions range from light chuckles, to laughter, to outright groans. People who like Trek will see this thing. Other people will not.

Think about it... if someone has already had 40+ years to get into Trek, and never did, what could possibly make them want to see this? They're just not into Trek. Nothing will change their mind... for them, they like movies with raw, mindless, action, where lots of things go KA-BOOM, with hot cars, and hot women... in other words, movies like Transformers. For this audience, Trek is a series loved by chess-club geeks, who give strange hand signals... and they won't change their mind about it... if they could, they would have done so with ENT or one of the more recent films.

But, if they (Paramount) need to see the dismal box office returns to show them the grim reality, then so be it. Trek better hope to god no other movie opens the same day, otherwise the OTHER film will be the one that rakes in money.

Its interesting that your first hand experience with the trailers are the only negative ones I've seen. From my own experience, I've seen the reverse.

 

[Borgminister]

Re: What are your Box office Predictions for Star Trek?

Experience or claim?

 

[Michael Chris]

Re: What are your Box office Predictions for Star Trek?

Between $70 million and $90million domestic run. Overseas about half that.

I'm so saving this post.

I hope I'm wrong.

 

[Borgminister]

Re: What are your Box office Predictions for Star Trek?

Between $70 million and $90million domestic run. Overseas about half that.

I'm so saving this post.

I hope I'm wrong.

So do I...

 

[Kpnuts]

Re: What are your Box office Predictions for Star Trek?

Opening day/night will be the ONLY time this film makes any money of any respect. Otherwise, it'll make Paul Blart look like Dark Knight.

Nobody of any number is gonna go see this thing. Opening day/night, all the Trek fans will be lined up, clinging to the hope that somehow they'll be able to save this thing, but otherwise, it'll be a royal floppa-roppa.

Every time I've been in a theater where the trailers for Trek have been shown, the audience reactions range from light chuckles, to laughter, to outright groans. People who like Trek will see this thing. Other people will not.

Think about it... if someone has already had 40+ years to get into Trek, and never did, what could possibly make them want to see this? They're just not into Trek. Nothing will change their mind... for them, they like movies with raw, mindless, action, where lots of things go KA-BOOM, with hot cars, and hot women... in other words, movies like Transformers. For this audience, Trek is a series loved by chess-club geeks, who give strange hand signals... and they won't change their mind about it... if they could, they would have done so with ENT or one of the more recent films.

But, if they (Paramount) need to see the dismal box office returns to show them the grim reality, then so be it. Trek better hope to god no other movie opens the same day, otherwise the OTHER film will be the one that rakes in money.

Sorry but you're talking rubbish.

 

[Kpnuts]

Re: What are your Box office Predictions for Star Trek?

WOW! Just WOW! So sad to see such prejudice and hatred from the other side of the pond.

Hatred?

I thought he was spot on.

 

[Plum]

Re: What are your Box office Predictions for Star Trek?

As of this day, with everything we've seen, it's easy to say this film will be a smash!

$120 Million, first week. I bet three thousand quatloos!

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

Re: What are your Box office Predictions for Star Trek?

I agree, I predicted above thread that if it was a good movie, with a positive buzz, it could do TDK business. TDK took a popular mythology (Joker and Batman) and used modern storytelling and SFX to become more relevant. That was what was donehere, perhaps.

Yes TDK numbers

 

[section9]

Re: What are your Box office Predictions for Star Trek?

Dear god, no.
The last thing we needed was another movie with reused/modified old props and sets and something that looks like it was made on a shoe string budget.

If Paramount did something right for once, it was starting fresh and from zero. Even if the film fails financially, in my opinion it was absolutely the right and only way to try and make a new Trek film that aims to revive the franchise.

There was absolutely NOTHING wrong with the physical look of the previous Trek movies. (or the serieses either).

The reason that they looked so good was BECAUSE of creative use of inventory. The production team could get $1.75 or more "bang" for each production dollar by remodeling, or rearranging the stocks on hand.

The Trek films in particular would not have been considered the money makers they were without the boost that "recycling" gave their budgets. The amount of money saved just on Bridges over the years was ENORMOUS.

Actually, Paramount still has all the sets and costumes in Storage, in case they ever needed to recreate the Enterprise-E, or a TOS ship (which they actually built again in the case of the Defiant for "Mirror Darkly").

But the TNG sets didn't work cinematically for one reason: while they looked familiar to a movie audience-they looked like what they were, TV sets used for a movie. JJ did not make that mistake. He created an enormously detailed an updated Enterprise Bridge that simply blows the doors off of anything since the original TOS bridge that, in itself was groundbreaking. JJ could not go back to the Paramount lot. Period. He had to start fresh to get the audience engaged and to break from the past.

 

[indranee]

Re: What are your Box office Predictions for Star Trek?

I thought they auctioned everything off last year? no?

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Re: What are your Box office Predictions for Star Trek?

Opening day/night will be the ONLY time this film makes any money of any respect. Otherwise, it'll make Paul Blart look like Dark Knight.

Nobody of any number is gonna go see this thing. Opening day/night, all the Trek fans will be lined up, clinging to the hope that somehow they'll be able to save this thing, but otherwise, it'll be a royal floppa-roppa.

Every time I've been in a theater where the trailers for Trek have been shown, the audience reactions range from light chuckles, to laughter, to outright groans. People who like Trek will see this thing. Other people will not.

Think about it... if someone has already had 40+ years to get into Trek, and never did, what could possibly make them want to see this? They're just not into Trek. Nothing will change their mind... for them, they like movies with raw, mindless, action, where lots of things go KA-BOOM, with hot cars, and hot women... in other words, movies like Transformers. For this audience, Trek is a series loved by chess-club geeks, who give strange hand signals... and they won't change their mind about it... if they could, they would have done so with ENT or one of the more recent films.

But, if they (Paramount) need to see the dismal box office returns to show them the grim reality, then so be it. Trek better hope to god no other movie opens the same day, otherwise the OTHER film will be the one that rakes in money.

Wow, that has to be one of the most pessimistic posts I have ever read on this board....

And the most unrealistic. Another keeper, to quote liberally from in the second week in May...

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Re: What are your Box office Predictions for Star Trek?

Actually, Paramount still has all the sets and costumes in Storage, in case they ever needed to recreate the Enterprise-E, or a TOS ship (which they actually built again in the case of the Defiant for "Mirror Darkly").

No they don't. They auctioned and sold them all a couple of years ago.

 

[ancient]

Re: What are your Box office Predictions for Star Trek?

Since reactions from people who have seen the movie have been pretty great, I think it'll do well. Hopefully Transformers numbers.

 

[darkwing_duck1]

Re: What are your Box office Predictions for Star Trek?

Since reactions from people who have seen the movie have been pretty great, I think it'll do well. Hopefully Transformers numbers.

Note of caution: the film has only played to the "was going to see it no matter what" crowd so far.

Serenity had as equally an enthusiastic premiere.

The reaction of "Joe Butt in Seat" has yet to be measured.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Re: What are your Box office Predictions for Star Trek?

Since reactions from people who have seen the movie have been pretty great, I think it'll do well. Hopefully Transformers numbers.

Exactly. There've been about two negative reviews so far, and people will doubtless harp on them - but being able to wave one or two critiques like that is a long way from fairly describing the response of people who've seen the thing as "mixed."

So far, Abrams seems to have hit a home run with the audience.

The Austin thing was brilliant, and just a little risky - obviously if the studio hadn't been enormously confident in their movie they wouldn't have tried it. Basically, they said "let's have the first public showing of the movie to a group whose opinions we can't 'embargo' be to a bunch of hard-core Trek fans who are in love with a Trek movie made a quarter of a century ago."

If they win that audience over, obviously they're in great shape - the film is largely directed to, and being otherwise expensively marketed to, "new fans" and a large general audience. But if the reaction had been mixed, or hostile - hell, if there had even been reports of boos in one or two places during the film - the idea would have been a huge misfire.