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XXXth Olympiad - London

^More than half of Oasis seeing as it's pretty much Oasis minus Noel :)

time will tell Deckerd...time will tell...
 
I agree. Just like Star Trek. I hate that shit. A total waste of money. I spit on it!
Hardly the same thing, and you know it.
Not at all. They are both entertainment. The only difference is that you like Trek, while I guess you don't particularly care about the Olympics. Hardly an objective comparison.

Olympics are "circuses" (as in "bread and circuses"). Flash extraveganzas designed to pump up the public mood and disguise the rot in their nations and cultures.
You must be the life of the party.
 
I agree. Just like Star Trek. I hate that shit. A total waste of money. I spit on it!
Hardly the same thing, and you know it.
Not at all. They are both entertainment. The only difference is that you like Trek, while I guess you don't particularly care about the Olympics. Hardly an objective comparison.

Olympics are "circuses" (as in "bread and circuses"). Flash extraveganzas designed to pump up the public mood and disguise the rot in their nations and cultures.
You must be the life of the party.
But no one made the whole country spend billions on Trek.

I enjoyed the Olympics - I really did, but no-one asked us as a country if we wanted to finance it. I'd have preferred it in someone elses country / pocket.

And I do think there is something of the 'lets distract the plebs' involved.
 
I've also read an article about the after-games usage of the Olympic infrastructure and it was generally lauded as a good one. There will be some reduction in size of the facilities and some will be disassembled and sold off (they were already built with that in mind). the Olympic village will be turned into housing (personally, I think it would have been better to have that be more affordable housing instead of what it will be).
You just have to plan these things well and before hand. Munich got a cool park, various sports facilities, a better public transport system and housing for the middle class and students out of the games in 1972.
 
I've also read an article about the after-games usage of the Olympic infrastructure and it was generally lauded as a good one. There will be some reduction in size of the facilities and some will be disassembled and sold off (they were already built with that in mind). the Olympic village will be turned into housing (personally, I think it would have been better to have that be more affordable housing instead of what it will be).
You just have to plan these things well and before hand. Munich got a cool park, various sports facilities, a better public transport system and a housing for the middle class and students out of the games in 1972.

Apparently a certain percentage of the housing has to be affordable.

Releyer1, the games were awarded in 2005, way before any financial meltdown when the UK was in a period of boom, so I'm not sure what Blair/Brown wanted to distract us from? Iraq possibly!
 
There's a guaranteed percentage of the Olympic village 40% or 50% will be affordable low cost rental. The fact that it will all be rental means there won't be any rapid outpricing of low income families.
 
Ah, cool. Thanks for the info. It sounded more like the apartments would be sold off from the article.
 
A big part of how big a benefit the Olympics will be in the long run will depend on how well the planners thought things out. From personal experience, I can say that I believe Atlanta got a pretty big benefit in the long run from the Olympics. Sure, it was a mess before and during the games, but most of the things they built or improved are still being used in one way or another. Georgia Tech (my alma mater, was there during the games) was the Olympic Village, and got several new large dorms, a new Natatorium, and many other improvements, while cleaning up the ghetto that was right next to campus. The Braves got a new stadium, which was a planned conversion of the Olympic stadium. The interstates got an overhaul, including the addition of an HOV lane. And Olympic park is still there too.

So I agree that the Olympics can be a waste, but only if you don't plan properly for what happens *after* the games. This is probably what happened to Athens and many other cities.
 
Actually, there was also a plan for afterwards for Athens but it kind of fell to the wayside for the most part (the Olympic stadium is still used for football games) and neither the park surrounding the sports facilities nor the structures themselves see a lot of care if any. And nowadays, there isn't any money available to develop the are further or halt the decay.
 
I bow to your wisdom! :lol:

As for the infrastructure, well Spain proves you don't need and Olympics to build/start to build a whole heap of white elephants.
 
[I enjoyed the Olympics - I really did, but no-one asked us as a country if we wanted to finance it. I'd have preferred it in someone elses country / pocket.

No one's ever asked us if we want to pay £13bn a year into the EU either, yet here we are.....
 
You mean the black hole of the EU coffers, that seem to take/want more and more of taxpayers money and yet seem to spend less and less.
 
According to the Office for National Statistics, the last time they conducted a review of the total direct and indirect net cost to the UK of continued EU membership, it was estimated to be £65bn per year. Or £1,000 per year per person in the UK.

Money well spent......
 
Well, we do get to compete in Eurovision, and play in the hardest continental qualification competition for the World Cup......Yay! :rolleyes: :lol:
 
I've got a radical idea that'll save the EU billions per year, abolish the CAP. Though not sure some of our continantal neighbours would like that idea.

But we are digressing from the London 2012 Olympics.
 
Back to Basketball. Lebron did an ugly foul on gasol and did not help him up. Is he still on the ''dark side", most hated player and everything?
 
Well, I'm glad the US won the medal count. More accurately I'm glad China did not win the medal count given how they recruit and train their Olympiads. It helps show that removing a child from their family and keeping them in Olympic camps for their entire adolescence training them to exhaustion and keeping details of their family's lives secret doesn't amount to much.
 
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