X-Men Origins: Wolverine workprint leaked - Not April Fools

[Messianni]

http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/03/31/x-men-origins-wolverine-workprint-leaked-online/

Gavin Hood’s X-Men Origins: Wolverine is currently slated for a May 1, 2009 release date in the U.S., but unfortunately, it looks like a few people might be getting their hands on the film a bit earlier than intended. Reports are pouring in that a full-length, DVD-quality workprint of the film has been leaked onto the internet and is quietly making its way across various bittorrent sites and other unsavory online venues. According to Drew McWeeny at HitFix, who has evidently seen parts of the video file, the copy is “near-finished…marred only by a few unfinished FX shots.” In addition, “there’s no timecode, no watermark…nothing. It’s a clean, perfect copy.”

Sounds like it's a really rough cut. Strings are visible, CGI is missing and there's a temp track for music, plus it doesn't include the reshoots done a few months back. But it's real.

Could this truly hurt the film's box office intake if bad buzz starts to form from this?

 

[Dream]

Could this truly hurt the film's box office intake if bad buzz starts to form from this?

I doubt the leak with make much of a difference but if the movie is REALLY BAD then the movie might lose lots of fan support which would be really bad for the hype. The last thing the movie needs is fans turning on the movie before it's even released.

Liam Neeson's Taken was leaked onto the internet four months before it came out on in the United States but the movie still did very well ($127 million) over here. So a movie getting leaked doesn't always kill it's chances of doing good.

 

[JoeZhang]

Didn't this also happen to the original Hulk film?

I seem to remember watching a grey CGI hulk...

 

[JoeZhang]

Could this truly hurt the film's box office intake if bad buzz starts to form from this?

I doubt the leak with make much of a difference but if the movie is REALLY BAD then the movie might lose lots of fan support which would be really bad for the hype. The last thing the movie needs is fans turning on the movie before it's even released.

Liam Neeson's Taken was leaked onto the internet four months before it came out on in the United States but the movie still did very well ($127 million) over here. So a movie getting leaked doesn't always kill it's chances of doing good.

The problem is, if I remember the leak of the hulk, a lot of people don't understand what they are watching "man you can see the wires! this suxes!"

 

[clint g]

Did this also happen with Star Wars Revenge of the Sith? Or was that simply a screener that got leaked?

 

[Roshi]

Liam Neeson's Taken was leaked onto the internet four months before it came out on in the United States (...)

It's because the movie was released in Europe four months before the US. So it's not really a leak.

Didn't this also happen to the original Hulk film?

I seem to remember watching a grey CGI hulk...

I remember a pants-less Hulk throwing a tank in the distance. Hulk Ass! Smash!

 

[JoeZhang]

Liam Neeson's Taken was leaked onto the internet four months before it came out on in the United States (...)

It's because the movie was released in Europe four months before the US. So it's not really a leak.
!

It was released in france almost a year before the US and Australia got it six months before. Here in the UK, we had to settle for being only 5 months ahead of you lot.

 

[Dream]

Did this also happen with Star Wars Revenge of the Sith? Or was that simply a screener that got leaked?

No. I recall ROTS leaked a day before it was released in theaters. Very different from being leaked a month in advance.

I remember something like this happened with Hostel 2 and the director blamed the poor boxoffice preformance of the movie on the leak. Though the movie being crappy probably had something to do with it too...

I think this is the first time a big budget movie was leaked so early. There is a reason stuff like this happening isn't the norm. Usually big movies like this have TONS of security since so much money is involved. That obviously didn't happen with this movie. Someone screwed up.

Meh. I wasn't going to watch Wolverine in the first place. I hate the character and only tolerated him in the X-men movies. But this really sucks for FOX. I guess it's karma for FOX suing Warners over Watchmen.

Liam Neeson's Taken was leaked onto the internet four months before it came out on in the United States (...)

It's because the movie was released in Europe four months before the US. So it's not really a leak.

Correction. Did some searching and it was more like six months which means it was leaked before the UK and US releases. Taken did well even though the movie was already online for months which was what was so impressive about it.

 

[JoeZhang]

hum, those re-shoots better be amazing... or word of mouth is going to kill this...

 

[The Evil Dead]

Couldn't happen to a nicer studio, haha.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

I doubt that bad WOM from a leaked print will affect opening weekend turnout much if at all. If the film is as disappointing as early word suggests, though, the bad buzz from the opening might combine with this early negativity to drive the second week way down, especially as big films open one weekend after another throughout the month.

 

[Captain Craig]

WILL NOT HURT THE OW AT ALL

Only a niche few will even see that, a smaller few will put any stock in the words of those people who might bash it.

My attitude is that I don't know those people, their tastes or anything so their opinion is more worthless than a pro critic, which I also don't care for.
I make up my own mind and on this film the masses of fanboys will as well.

Now after the movie opens IF IT SUCKS then it'll have horrible legs at the box office. Only because its proved to be bad and not because a scant few fanboys saw an early rough cut with unfinished CGI, support cables and no music.

 

[Stone_Cold_Sisko]

This only hurts if the movie is so bad that the negative sentiment spreads like wildfire. Anything other than complete suckage... it doesn't hurt.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

The BBC is pretty cold:

The film had been intended to compete alongside other summer blockbuster movies including Transformers 2 and the big budget update of Star Trek.

Had been?

Some people have called this karma for the Watchmen suit - maybe more likely someone pissed off about that or Fox's handling of these properties in general.

 

[Messianni]

The BBC is pretty cold:

The film had been intended to compete alongside other summer blockbuster movies including Transformers 2 and the big budget update of Star Trek.

Had been?

Some people have called this karma for the Watchmen suit - maybe more likely someone pissed off about that or Fox's handling of these properties in general.

As stupid as it sounds, 's' and 'd' are right next each other on they keyboard.

I haven't bothered to download it, but if negativity from this starts to spread it can certainly give us a small indication of what reaction to the film will be. If fanboys don't like it, why could critics?

 

[JoeZhang]

WILL NOT HURT THE OW AT ALL

Only a niche few will even see that, a smaller few will put any stock in the words of those people who might bash it.

My attitude is that I don't know those people, their tastes or anything so their opinion is more worthless than a pro critic, which I also don't care for.
I make up my own mind and on this film the masses of fanboys will as well.

Now after the movie opens IF IT SUCKS then it'll have horrible legs at the box office. Only because its proved to be bad and not because a scant few fanboys saw an early rough cut with unfinished CGI, support cables and no music.

I think fanboys of certain x-men characters will have the biggest problem with it - certain characters are present in name only, something that will bug them but not the general public who have no idea who those people are anyway...

 

[blaXXer]

WILL NOT HURT THE OW AT ALL

Only a niche few will even see that, a smaller few will put any stock in the words of those people who might bash it.

My attitude is that I don't know those people, their tastes or anything so their opinion is more worthless than a pro critic, which I also don't care for.
I make up my own mind and on this film the masses of fanboys will as well.

Now after the movie opens IF IT SUCKS then it'll have horrible legs at the box office. Only because its proved to be bad and not because a scant few fanboys saw an early rough cut with unfinished CGI, support cables and no music.

I think fanboys of certain x-men characters will have the biggest problem with it - certain characters are present in name only, something that will bug them but not the general public who have no idea who those people are anyway...

DEADPOOL!!!!!

 

[Captain Craig]

WILL NOT HURT THE OW AT ALL

Only a niche few will even see that, a smaller few will put any stock in the words of those people who might bash it.

My attitude is that I don't know those people, their tastes or anything so their opinion is more worthless than a pro critic, which I also don't care for.
I make up my own mind and on this film the masses of fanboys will as well.

Now after the movie opens IF IT SUCKS then it'll have horrible legs at the box office. Only because its proved to be bad and not because a scant few fanboys saw an early rough cut with unfinished CGI, support cables and no music.

I think fanboys of certain x-men characters will have the biggest problem with it - certain characters are present in name only, something that will bug them but not the general public who have no idea who those people are anyway...

DEADPOOL!!!!!

This cut that is leaked is also about 15min shorter than it will be.
Editorials indicate its missing the reshoots/late footage that we know Ryan Rynolds(Deadpool) was involved with.
Soooooo, whatever is involved with Deadpool in this existing leaked draft is not going to reflect how the character ends up in the final cut of the film.

Hence fanboys will only make the sterotype worse by making any fuss over this before the film is shown properly.

 

[mswood]

Well the rough cut of the original Ang Lee Hulk was released early and the movie's word of mouth went down dramatically afterwards. Even its opening didn't meet studio expectations and it proceeded to drop like a rock afterwards.

And so far I have read about 60 different opinions and only one was real positive. SUre its got reshoots (about 15 minutes worth), but most of the reviews have only liked about 15 minutes of the full movie. THats gonna be hard for reshoots to completely fix.

As for not listening to opinions on-line, that is true as I don't know these people, but already three buddies of mine (who I do watch films with and have a generally strong idea of it they like or dislike something how close their opinions are gonna be to mine) have really disliked all but the opening.

If that can spread, from live person to persons (as opposed just through nameless people on the internet) then it seriously could hurt this film.

For example it wasn't until my boyfriend hated the Hulk that I began to really give some credence to the negative press on the early Hulk release. When I eventually did see it, I agreed (and it did hurt that film I was planning to see it in the theatre I wanted and got it as a rental).

What might spare this film is that its the first big Summer release, so it might (for tis first week at least) be able to stave off the negative press just for people to see the "1st Big Event" Picture. But I don't think it will emerge without some damage.

 

[Sephiroth]

Well the rough cut of the original Ang Lee Hulk was released early and the movie's word of mouth went down dramatically afterwards. Even its opening didn't meet studio expectations and it proceeded to drop like a rock afterwards.

And so far I have read about 60 different opinions and only one was real positive. SUre its got reshoots (about 15 minutes worth), but most of the reviews have only liked about 15 minutes of the full movie. THats gonna be hard for reshoots to completely fix.

As for not listening to opinions on-line, that is true as I don't know these people, but already three buddies of mine (who I do watch films with and have a generally strong idea of it they like or dislike something how close their opinions are gonna be to mine) have really disliked all but the opening.

If that can spread, from live person to persons (as opposed just through nameless people on the internet) then it seriously could hurt this film.

For example it wasn't until my boyfriend hated the Hulk that I began to really give some credence to the negative press on the early Hulk release. When I eventually did see it, I agreed (and it did hurt that film I was planning to see it in the theatre I wanted and got it as a rental).

What might spare this film is that its the first big Summer release, so it might (for tis first week at least) be able to stave off the negative press just for people to see the "1st Big Event" Picture. But I don't think it will emerge without some damage.

yeah, but that was fucking Ang Lee's hulk, it blew horse chowder, Warnings were sent out to counter all the film studio payroll critics