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X-Men: Apocalypse announced for May 2016

So Apocalypse will probably look pretty much like this, right? I've been assuming he'll be a CG mocap character; the vague unreality of even the highest-end CG could in this case work in the movie's favor to give him an even more nightmarish presence in addition to beefing up his physique.

Hopefully for the movie he'll have four belts instead of three :lol:

I always thought that was the most asinine character design for that game. He doesn't wear three massive belts on top of each other in the comics! He could never bend forward! :wtf:
 
His big blue lips make contact with his ear lobes.
Aye, that too, and another potential advantage for CG.





Granted, though, finding someone really tall and muscular who's also a good actor is tricky. So that might justify going CGI, although it seems extravagantly expensive in a case like this, given that it's easy to make actors look bigger with costuming, camera angles, and the like.

I mean, really, if the X-Men movies got hung up on height, Hugh Jackman would never have qualified to be Wolverine.
Ah, but they never tried to make Jackman look short. ;) And while you're correct about making actors look bigger, there are limits, especially when it comes to brawling. It's a lucky thing for PJ and Co. that Tolkien never wrote a Frodo/Gandalf fistfight. :rommie:
 
^Ahh, but the Tolkien films, like most big-budget action films today, create CG doubles of the live actors for the big action scenes. So needing a CG character for an action scene does not preclude casting a live actor in the same role for other scenes.

Indeed, this was true long before CGI; in many films, live actors have been doubled with animatronic replicas for FX scenes, and actors who've been faked to appear large or small have been doubled by appropriately-sized people in shots where interaction is required. Even Peter Jackson does this; every hobbit and dwarf character in the movies has a Little Person double for the main actor, with the face being digitally replaced.
 
^Ahh, but the Tolkien films, like most big-budget action films today, create CG doubles of the live actors for the big action scenes. So needing a CG character for an action scene does not preclude casting a live actor in the same role for other scenes.

Indeed, this was true long before CGI; in many films, live actors have been doubled with animatronic replicas for FX scenes, and actors who've been faked to appear large or small have been doubled by appropriately-sized people in shots where interaction is required. Even Peter Jackson does this; every hobbit and dwarf character in the movies has a Little Person double for the main actor, with the face being digitally replaced.
It is now clear to me that this friendly intellectual debate shall not be resolved by words alone. I therefore propose a game of billiards in the City of San Francisco sometime this week, in which the loser shall publicly acknowledge the winner's position to be the superior one; as the challenged party, you may choose the venue and take the first shot. :cool:
 
Sorry, my travel budget's maxed out by my impending trip to spend Christmas with the family. And I'm lousy at billiards.

Anyway, there's nothing to be resolved; I'm just saying there's more than one option available. CGI is a useful technique, but there's still a place for other techniques, and I'm just saying we (and hopefully the filmmakers) should be aware of all the possibilities.
 
Why Marvel wants the X-Men to fail

What's in Marvel's best interest?

From a completely cynical and business perspective: it's in Marvel's best interest for Sony and Fox to lose their rights to their big characters, because it would mean that Marvel would reclaim those popular, money-making franchises.

But there's also another layer to this: Marvel is also a comic book company. It's in control of the source material that Sony and Fox use, and it has say when it comes to cartoons, toys, and licensing. And this makes some X-Men and Fantastic Four fans nervous because Marvel could, if it wanted to, downplay their favorite characters by limiting the merchandise. For instance, Marvel has a deal where it benefits from Spider-Man's movie products even though Sony owns the movie rights.

Rob Liefeld, a comics creator who helped make the...
 
I'm skeptical of the idea that Marvel is cutting back on X-Men comics because they want the movies to fail. They cut back on the X-Men because the X-Men were fucking everywhere. They were overshadowing everything else. Seriously, the complaint is that they're scaling down what was three separate publications all at once.

I agree that they've redirected resources towards promoting other comics (such as Guardians, which they want interest in now that there's a movie), but the X-Men can stand on their own, which I think is part of it.
 
Yeah, the X-Men comics have reached a point of oversaturation more than once. It's not a conspiracy that they'd trim some back, it's just business.
 
But when you break things down to just the comic readers, the situation becomes a bit more fragmented, and allegiances are a bit more pronounced. At Comic Book Resources, a popular comics site, the forums aren't just split into DC and Marvel but rather are split into: Marvel, Spider-Man, Superman, Wonder Woman, and X-Books (and so on). And in those fandoms, there's even more jagged segmentation.
This seems like the perfect cue for a Homer Simpson "NEEERRRRRDDDSSS!!!" threadbomb. :rommie:
 
Wait a minute... There are people out there who think that Marvel is cutting back on the X-Men comics in the belief that it will hurt the movies?? Wow, they have a seriously skewed sense of proportion. Comics today are a niche market with readerships in the thousands or tens of thousands; the best-selling comics may break a hundred thousand, and that's just what's shipped to stores, not necessarily what actually sells. And that's at 3 to 4 dollars per issue. Movies have viewership figures in the millions or tens of millions, with ticket prices maybe 2-3 times the price of a comic book. Marvel could cancel the comics outright and it would have virtually no impact on the movies' performance or visibility.
 
The comments about a lack of X-men movie merchandise is valid. I can't be the only person that has noticed that.

I had to go to Carl's Jr, and buy a kids meal just to get a Magneto toy figure.
 
I think that's plausible. But that's not necessarily a desire for a movie to fail but a recognition that they gain little by promoting it. That's why there's a difference between not making merchandise (not creating something new to promote it) and sabotaging their own comics (trying to make it fail).
 
Yeah, I don't see there being a connection between there X-Men comics being cut back and Marvel wanting the movies to fail. After all Marvel can only publish so many comics, and it makes sense that they might want to spread some of that attention around. The comics and the movies don't really have much of an impact on each other. I was surprised to find out a while back that the sales of the comics really don't rise at all after the movies come out, and since that's the case I don't see anything that happens to the comics having any kind of impact on the movies.
 
So... we can all go back to assuming that Singer is most probably one fairly awesome dude again? :p
 
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