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X-Mas relese = Paramount uncertain?

As I said before, my friend, who lives in Los Angeles likes to say: "Xmas Day means a trip to the movies". He said that it´s a holiday tradition.
 
Cyrus said:
Kpnuts said:
You honestly think that there would be more people in the cinema on xmas day, than say if the film was released a week later?

As I mentioned above, more people go to movies in the Christmas-new year week than any other time of the year. Releasing it a week later makes absolutely no sense.

Firstly, you do realise that 'a week after Christmas day' is still technically 'the Christmas-New year week' right?

Secondly, so it makes more sense to release a film on Christmas, a day that's typically spent among family and friends, enjoying each other's company, than a day that's still part of the holiday season, but that's not tied down with a particular day of celebration?

Thirdly, I imagine the Trekkers on here would have no problem seeing a Star Trek film on Christmas day, but think about the casual and non-fans that may like to see it, something tells me they'd rather spend Christmas in other ways.
 
Kpnuts said:
Cyrus said:
Kpnuts said:
You honestly think that there would be more people in the cinema on xmas day, than say if the film was released a week later?

As I mentioned above, more people go to movies in the Christmas-new year week than any other time of the year. Releasing it a week later makes absolutely no sense.

Firstly, you do realise that 'a week after Christmas day' is still technically 'the Christmas-New year week' right?

Secondly, so it makes more sense to release a film on Christmas, a day that's typically spent among family and friends, enjoying each other's company, than a day that's still part of the holiday season, but that's not tied down with a particular day of celebration?

Thirdly, I imagine the Trekkers on here would have no problem seeing a Star Trek film on Christmas day, but think about the casual and non-fans that may like to see it, something tells me they'd rather spend Christmas in other ways.

Except is a proven fact that A LOT of people DO go to see a movie on Christmas Day. Just because you, or your family doesn't, it doesn't alter the known fact that A LOT of people in fact do. Thus, releasing it on Christmas day could be seen as Paramount having a lot of faith in the project.
 
Kpnuts said:
Firstly, you do realise that 'a week after Christmas day' is still technically 'the Christmas-New year week' right?

No, it's not, not even close. Every single day from Christmas to new year is a great boxoffice day, with weekdays producing weekend like numbers. It's that seven day period that is usually the number #1 week of the year. Releasing it a week later means losing all those days. The new year day itself is a mixed bag with a large number of people staying home and watching football games, and the days after new year are back to normal lackluster boxoffice days.

Secondly, so it makes more sense to release a film on Christmas, a day that's typically spent among family and friends, enjoying each other's company, than a day that's still part of the holiday season, but that's not tied down with a particular day of celebration?

Thirdly, I imagine the Trekkers on here would have no problem seeing a Star Trek film on Christmas day, but think about the casual and non-fans that may like to see it, something tells me they'd rather spend Christmas in other ways.

I am not sure why you are arguing this. My claim is not based on meaningless anecdotal evidence, it's based on actual boxoffice data released by the studios.
 
Kpnuts said:
Cyrus said:
Kpnuts said:
You honestly think that there would be more people in the cinema on xmas day, than say if the film was released a week later?

As I mentioned above, more people go to movies in the Christmas-new year week than any other time of the year. Releasing it a week later makes absolutely no sense.

Firstly, you do realise that 'a week after Christmas day' is still technically 'the Christmas-New year week' right?

Secondly, so it makes more sense to release a film on Christmas, a day that's typically spent among family and friends, enjoying each other's company, than a day that's still part of the holiday season, but that's not tied down with a particular day of celebration?

Thirdly, I imagine the Trekkers on here would have no problem seeing a Star Trek film on Christmas day, but think about the casual and non-fans that may like to see it, something tells me they'd rather spend Christmas in other ways.

Well, "something" is lying to you. A few years ago, one of the Harry Potter movies came out around Christmastime, and my girlfriend's parents, my son, and I all went to see it Christmas Day. The theater was almost filled to capacity.

Sounds like you live "back in the stone age".
 
I've gone to movies on Christmas Day for the last few years. The parking lot is always full, and people are always fighting for seats.

Christmas is a family day, yes. But by the time presents are opened and dinner is eaten, there's still a lot of time left in the day. A lot of people go to the movies. I go to the movies WITH MY FAMILY, so it's not like I'm destroying the spirit of Christmas or anything.
 
I imagine the Trekkers on here would have no problem seeing a Star Trek film on Christmas day, but think about the casual and non-fans that may like to see it, something tells me they'd rather spend Christmas in other ways.

There are alot of assumptions in that statement, without base particularly when there's box office data that says Christmas day is a big movie day. Paramount isn't spending loads of cash on this film well preceding under the notion its going to fail - actually its the opposite so they're not trying to bury it.

Sharr
 
Noel Given said:
Kpnuts said:
Cyrus said:
Kpnuts said:
You honestly think that there would be more people in the cinema on xmas day, than say if the film was released a week later?

As I mentioned above, more people go to movies in the Christmas-new year week than any other time of the year. Releasing it a week later makes absolutely no sense.

Firstly, you do realise that 'a week after Christmas day' is still technically 'the Christmas-New year week' right?

Secondly, so it makes more sense to release a film on Christmas, a day that's typically spent among family and friends, enjoying each other's company, than a day that's still part of the holiday season, but that's not tied down with a particular day of celebration?

Thirdly, I imagine the Trekkers on here would have no problem seeing a Star Trek film on Christmas day, but think about the casual and non-fans that may like to see it, something tells me they'd rather spend Christmas in other ways.

Except is a proven fact that A LOT of people DO go to see a movie on Christmas Day. Just because you, or your family doesn't, it doesn't alter the known fact that A LOT of people in fact do. Thus, releasing it on Christmas day could be seen as Paramount having a lot of faith in the project.

I'll put this in simpler terms..

Let's say 7 million people see it on Christmas day. That's 'A LOT' as you say right? Ok... what if 8 or 9 million people saw it a week earlier on opening night, same holiday season, but more people would be willing to give up a few hours of their xmas for the cinema.

See the difference between 7 and 8 or 9? One's bigger?

I'm not saying there won't be people on xmas day, I'm saying there will be more if they release it a week earlier/later.
 
Kpnuts said:


I'll put this in simpler terms..

Let's say 7 million people see it on Christmas day. That's 'A LOT' as you say right? Ok... what if 8 or 9 million people saw it a week earlier on opening night, same holiday season, but more people would be willing to give up a few hours of their xmas for the cinema.

See the difference between 7 and 8 or 9? One's bigger?

I'm not saying there won't be people on xmas day, I'm saying there will be more if they release it a week earlier/later.

All you want to do is argue, argue, argue. You don't run things at Paramount, so until you do, STFU.
 
Jolly_St_Picard said:
Kpnuts said:


I'll put this in simpler terms..

Let's say 7 million people see it on Christmas day. That's 'A LOT' as you say right? Ok... what if 8 or 9 million people saw it a week earlier on opening night, same holiday season, but more people would be willing to give up a few hours of their xmas for the cinema.

See the difference between 7 and 8 or 9? One's bigger?

I'm not saying there won't be people on xmas day, I'm saying there will be more if they release it a week earlier/later.

All you want to do is argue, argue, argue. You don't run things at Paramount, so until you do, STFU.

I take it you'd rather we all get along and agree with everything each of us says, smiling all the time and getting along like best friends? If so there's probably a message board on here.

Until then, grow some thicker skin, and realise that just because you think something, doesn't make it so.
 
Nice try. If there was a Disney forum here, it would be as big a bloodbath as anyplace. :lol:

I never see movies on Xmas day but everyone knows that a lot of people do. And see movies the whole week. The family is in from out of town, the turkey is eaten and the presents are broken. Gotta do SOMETHING to keep from murdering each other.
 
Kpnuts said:
Jolly_St_Picard said:
Kpnuts said:


I'll put this in simpler terms..

Let's say 7 million people see it on Christmas day. That's 'A LOT' as you say right? Ok... what if 8 or 9 million people saw it a week earlier on opening night, same holiday season, but more people would be willing to give up a few hours of their xmas for the cinema.

See the difference between 7 and 8 or 9? One's bigger?

I'm not saying there won't be people on xmas day, I'm saying there will be more if they release it a week earlier/later.

All you want to do is argue, argue, argue. You don't run things at Paramount, so until you do, STFU.

I take it you'd rather we all get along and agree with everything each of us says, smiling all the time and getting along like best friends? If so there's probably a message board on <a href="www.disney.com" target="_blank">here</a>.

Until then, grow some thicker skin, and realise that just because you think something, doesn't make it so.

I think you need to grow thicker skin, because everyone here is proving you wrong and you refuse to accept it. Have you ever been to America? Could you even find it on a world map?
 
Xmas day is one of the biggest release days of the year in the US. Trek XI couldn't really have a better release day. Paramount has high hopes for this film so they're releasing it in a prime slot. A lot of familys go to the movies Xmas day to relax and have fun after a hectic day of festivities.

My personal opinion is nobody should have to work on Christmas, but over the years the US has gotten away from having any day of rest. Stores used to be closed on holidays. Now most are open for some length of time, usually shorter hours, to have special sales.

Oh, and if we had a Disney forum here you could take the minor squabbles in this forum and multiply them by 10. :lol:
 
Jolly_St_Picard said:
Kpnuts said:
Jolly_St_Picard said:
Kpnuts said:


I'll put this in simpler terms..

Let's say 7 million people see it on Christmas day. That's 'A LOT' as you say right? Ok... what if 8 or 9 million people saw it a week earlier on opening night, same holiday season, but more people would be willing to give up a few hours of their xmas for the cinema.

See the difference between 7 and 8 or 9? One's bigger?

I'm not saying there won't be people on xmas day, I'm saying there will be more if they release it a week earlier/later.

All you want to do is argue, argue, argue. You don't run things at Paramount, so until you do, STFU.

I take it you'd rather we all get along and agree with everything each of us says, smiling all the time and getting along like best friends? If so there's probably a message board on here.

Until then, grow some thicker skin, and realise that just because you think something, doesn't make it so.

I think you need to grow thicker skin, because everyone here is proving you wrong and you refuse to accept it. Have you ever been to America? Could you even find it on a world map?
Knock it off you two.
 
At least the studio is taking its time filming the new movie and not rushing it in just a few months the way they did INSURRECTION and NEMESIS. Some movies in the franchise suffered because they didn't shoot until six or nine months or so before release date and there was barely enough time for script doctoring and sufficient editing. With TREK XI, at least there's going to be plenty of time to work out a lot of kinks provided Abrams and his crew are skilled enough to do so and honor the franchise and continuity.
 
Kpnuts said:
...realise that just because you think something, doesn't make it so.

Quite true.

But it's not hard to do actual, you know, empirical research on this. For example, from the article here:

Christmas Day historically represents the biggest viewing day for the movie industry and provides a welcome financial surge. And this year has proven to be better than the last so far.

Or here:

The movie industry counts on Christmas Day to kick off a blockbuster season.

And so forth.

Despite your protests, Christmas Day has historically, empirically, and uncontrovertably proven to be a major box-office day in the U.S.
 
Kpnuts said:
I'll put this in simpler terms..

I'll put it in simplest terms:

DO SOME RESEARCH FOR YOURSELF.

It's ALL out there and REALLY easy to do with a new invention called "google".

Christmas Day is one of the best days financially for a movie to be released.

How can you argue with all of the facts out there supporting this? Except with your made up numbers from the land of unicorns and fairies.
 
Kpnuts said:
Secondly, so it makes more sense to release a film on Christmas, a day that's typically spent among family and friends, enjoying each other's company, than a day that's still part of the holiday season, but that's not tied down with a particular day of celebration?

Do you understand that what "makes sense" to you has no necessary relationship to what's proven to be true in this case, as regards movie release patterns in the United States?

Quite a few people who know the numbers and the history have explained now what actually happens on Christmas day. You can reject that if you like, but that won't make your opinion "right" in this case or the verifiable information of the (relatively) knowledgable wrong.

BTW, the top three movies in the U.S. yesterday made 13.6, 9.7 and 9.5 million dollars respectively - an absurd amount of money for a Tuesday. But then, it was Christmas day so it's not unexpected. :)
 
North Pole-aris said:
Kpnuts said:
There's a difference between releasing films in Nov/Dec and releasing a film on CHRISTMAS DAY.

Shocking decision by Paramount, who the hell goes to the cinema on xmas day?

In the United States? Millions of people. It's a very big day for movies.

Quiet, you! Don't educate people! :)

This really works out perfectly. For next year, I might buy out a theater for a showing and invite everyone I know.
 
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